Breeding dogs...???

those were some top notch dogs that you mentioned...and you are right many people don't know that zebo and honeybunch had a litter..the whole litter was worthless. zebo was that freak that you were talking about. i don't know of one freak that was able to reproduce a high percentage...butcherboy, zebo, bb red, banjo, etc. all of them were freak dogs but never produced at a really high level. we found out the hard way, kinda like you, that peds don't tote the mail. the dog does. after we learned that only tried and true dogs from tried and true parents and litters were put together. we found ourselves breeding less, but getting much higher %'s. when i get to this point with my hog dogs i will do the same. be very meticulous in what i breed until i get a few solid dogs that i know will produce what i want. then i will only breed when i need some youngsters and my buddy's need some youngsters...lol