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Sir your thoughts and comments are so true. My dogs got started by men that had raised their on dogs for years.I tried for a long time to get dogs from them. But it took them trusting me and getting to know me. They had to (in their mines) besure that I was going to take care of and maintian the breed as they did.And over the years I have done the same. I dont and will never raise dogs just for the money.I dont need it that bad.I breed when I need to. I have one of my young females breed wright now, the only reason is I want to see if the cross is good enought to meet my standers.There may not be any of them make it.Like I said I feel that what you have said is so true. Thanks