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cetchdawg
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« on: February 05, 2010, 07:59:57 am »

Thanks yall !! thanks a bunch !!

Ok im am gonna just give a lil run down of what i am dealing with ! Hopefuly the folks who are willing to help will have the patients with me and read this if it gets a lil lengthy ?? I will also try and stay on track without jumping around my subjects !!

Alright here goes, I will start off sayin that i really appreciate all the info !! Here is my deal, my dogs are dogs that rarely ever get "skunked" if theres a hog around hes caught and im not just sayin that to brag im just givin a description. all of my dogs are from the same line and are born with that drive! ive posted some pics of them working hogs at six weeks!! So they do have that heart as to the hog aspect !! Im sure that the drive to be a pen dog is different !!
 This is what my dogs are like in the woods they usaully stay within id say 300 yards and check in every 5 minutes or so !! if my dogs are gone for more than that i know they are fixen to catch a hog !! i run two full grown dogs and sometimes a pup or two ! With that said once my dogs find a hog there will NEVER be a bark !! EVER !! its just squeel or grunt !! I am not proud of this now but when i was younger thats just what i was into ! i have hunted with a lot of others with bay dogs and now i realize the advantages of the bay dogs !! Less time doctorin dogs and prolly a hog or two more could be caught!
Now, soon as i leg a hog my dogs will relay back to the pack to catch another one !!
 Also they wont fool with a hog in the box or in a pen !!! I can put them in a pen and get them to work a hog ! but around the pen they wont just fool with a hog !!kinda like they know the difference ! ive always had a hog pen in the yard and its a "they know better" kinda thing !! I would say my dogs handle pretty good not the best but they do listen when around hogs ! if i throw them in a pen most of the time i can get them to bark (which is kinda funny cause i never hear that out of them) sometimes they feel "TRIED" i guess and will catch, once that happens they will loose all the control i was getting them to have and i will have to start all over!! My male which is prolly the more experienced of the two i hunt  has the most "GRIT" actually seems like he understands better than my female! in the pen he will bay tight (like i said before its kinds weird watchin him do that ) and rapid and not move, he gets  really close prolly within a foot of the hogs face.  if the hog "tries" him he will try and catch i can tell him to get out and sometimes he will and sometimes he wont !! so i know at least sometimes he is listening !!
Alright im gonna switch it up a bit !! LOL I do own my male dogs mom ! i dont hunt her anymore cause she is in rough shape. she is 12  when she hit a certain point she started getting a lil smarter she started backing off a lil , that was not till she was around 8-9.
My male is almost that old and he does not seem like he is doing that, in the woods he still wont back off! He is almost 8 !! and i know if he dont figure it out he is gonna get killed!! ive been very lucky !! 

I guess  another question i have is can i put a muzzle on him in a pen ?? i always have thought about doing it but was not sure about it?? I know he would prolly go nuts !! Maybe i could get him to understand a lil better that he needs to ALWAYS listen to me !!

Ok now to my main subject on workin my pup! i will start by sayin this all of the pups i keep always start off bayin and baying very well! not untill they get around a year old and have been around a bunch of caught hogs do they start catching!! so im right at that point now he is almost ten months old !! and he does awesome in the pen and in the woods he still bays when the other two are catching! He is bigger than both his parents and it just seems funny he will not grow the balls !! (which i dont want him to!!!!) So with that said i think i have a pretty good chance keepin him a bay dog ! I HOPE !!! LOL
This is pretty much what he will do in a pen He will get right up in the hogs face prolly a foot or so and bark right off the start, but more of a mad bark not an excited bark (i think there is a difference) he has a growl to his bark and kinda shows his teeth! He will stay there till the hog rushes forward then he will back off... if the hog charges him and keeps coming he will run from it but with his head turned back always watchin the hog!!  and when the hog stops he seems like he gets mad and will get a lil more aggrasive and nip at its nose (which in a bay pen i would assume is not  good or great?) he never really seems to get "bored" but he does get tired and starts to slow down ! his bark is really never very "RAPID: i guess?? but when he gets tired it does get slower than normal!!?? yesterday i worked him for about ten minutes and he only looked away twice!! i mean actually stopped and looked up at the others i had with me!! I read to bring people and turn on the radio so i did !! it kinda did get him off track !! also he did look at me a few times with just his eyes did not stop barking or move his head just looked my way with his eyes ! He still does not listen when i want him out and normally i go get him but yesterday  it tried to get him to come to me instead and it only took about a minute or so, i finally got his attention and he came to me !! so i was pretty happy about that!  thats pretty much it i could go on all day but thats the gist !! im not looking to have someone give me all their secrets but maybe point me in the right direction !! if i could attend some bays im sure i would lean WAY more  its just so far for me !! i am all ears and willing to listen to any and all adive !!

Thanks
 Chaz


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