Message #140533

[hog428]

Boys in total respect were are going to haft to agree to dis agree all my dogs will always grab the head and put his head to the ground I don't use vest and have had no dogs cut for I hate to say this because your not going to agree but it's been over two years I feel the dog has much more control with all four feet on the ground they have in my thinking a better chance of that buy staying under the eye level    just my experience