Message #154338

[Hog Dog Mike]

This guy that I used to train bird dogs with was the best I ever seen at breeding. I have spent many an hour in a truck with this guy trying to pick his brain. Here are some of the things he told me.

1. One time he bred a national champion female and a national champion male together and wound up with average bird dogs.

2. The Kansas Wind won something like 12 open chamionships and NEVER produced anything.

3. There was a dog in Ok named Spaceglider that they bred everything to. He could produce puppy and derby winners but when you went to tighten the screws down and break them they came apart like a cheap suit.

4. He had an old dog named Jumper Jim that never won a championship but produced the dog that won more than any other. Rebel Wrangler won 13 open championships and 9 runner ups. His full brother won 6 open championships and 3 runner ups. One of the ones he won was the national derby championship.

5. He had an old bitch dog out of Buckboard that you could breed to Jumper Jim and every dog in the litter would be a good dog.

6. I bred to Double Rebel Jack (the 6 championship winner) to my best bitch and every dog in the litter was a good dog. Some were better than others but all were good.

7. I trained a setter for a Dr. that was out of outstanding breeding. He had her with a trainer that did not have a clue. She was a good dog. I bred her to a dog down on the King Ranch that was outstanding. EVERY dog in two litters were simply outstanding. One thing everybody always said is that it took two years to break a setter. I had one of the pups dead solid broke @ six months.

8. One of the things Tony always told me is that he looked for dogs that wanted to please him. That is about the best advise I ever received. Any dog that wants to please will make you a dog.