mr howard did say "before i started breeding b-m curs, i went crazy, or had a brain storm, and tried to breed some catahoula bulldogs. i bred bruno to some half bulldog's and half catahoula curs, and registered them with the a-r-f in quinlan tx as catahoula bulldogs...never got one pup that had any sense"
http://www.easttexashogdoggers.com/forum/index.php?topic=21872.0....
underdog, i only have one gyp from mr knierem...she was one of the pups in the second pic...she's a year old and turning it on...the other pup died...the dog in the first pic is from a guy here in oklahoma....