Hahahahaha.....thats funny! A few years ago we used to hold ropings at our house and I ran them and I was the announcer and book keeper, so I was also the complaint department. Nothing worse than the sound of a grown man bellyaching. I used to say that i have never seen such whinny men as team ropers even though every one of them were our friends. So to all you Mods, I know exactly how you feel!