Message #193952

[treeingratterrier]

The Goodmans I had were almost completely Leopard spotted with that Merle gene and no tan to even give that might have hound in them off to anyone, I got them from the Parker Family from Cuero/Lufktin Texas.  I always wondered the same thing about the similar colors between the Black Mouth Cur, Leopard, and Plott hound, if you look close especially on the linebred strains they seem to alway have a throwback gene that shows spotted colors betwwen the 3 dogs.  After all is said is and dont the dogs we have here in the USA were created here from distinct lines from what ever county the boat people brought over from Europe, its reallly about the same with the horses brought over as well.  The King of Spain sent explorers over here and records show he bought all kinds of horses from every part of Europe to send on the ships to explore.  I always figured the dogs came from everywhere as well, seems like a lot of some kind of slave or war dogs had a lot of mastiff or some kind of bulldog in them, usually yellow, I bet hey would past as some American Bulldogs of today or some Curs especially the types we see now bred a lil smaller but having the bulldog and mastiff colors still held in the strains.  I always wondered what dog in Europe has the spotted color gene though.  I remember seeing that yellow blackmouth cur breeder from the east texas forest Jude Hart being interviewed and archived into the State of Texas video collection or oral history on tv about 25 years ago.  He was relating to the interviewer that his parrents landed with some kind of dogs and were in Florida and actually worked and traveled there way to Texas taking over 18 months, they had the dogs with them and were catching cows, hunting bears and hogs on the way over here.  I have always wondered where is that interview and one could see it somehow on a Texas gov web site or search.  Did anyone on here see the Jude Hart mirgration tv interview??  He was still alive and in his 90's when i was young, Lavon Davis had some dogs from him and were in the strain i had for a while, i bred up a bunvh of them and made 2 or 3 hog drives with on our ranches just to see if i could really leave them out there baying for hours and to see if the hogs we had down here would bay up and be driven to the pen down there like wild cows.  After that i fooled with a lot of different strains of blackmouth curs especially some strain or red blackmouth that was a larger dog from east texas.  I dont even remember who i got them from up there any more, i do remember he lived under the brige in Bridge City really close to Beaumount, lots of his dogs were used by cow people especily auction barn cowboys who were catching cows for contract and clearing out large pastures down here.  Back to the Goodman hounds, if I did not watch if breeding them back they also had a ton of white on them sometimes got deaf pups just like the catahoulas i had from time to time, weird for sure.  No telling how close all of these dogs curs and hounds were at one time when the county was just settled, the same type questions also come up with the earlier Terriers as well and people argue over the rat fox fiest history but is interesting to me at timeslol