There's stil some with drive. I bought one for my now wife I'n high school. Got him at 8 weeks old from lady I'n forney they are supose to raise the biggest great Danes I'n USA. Bruiser was 235 lbs I'n his fatest stage hid did really nothin but lay round was bayin hogs one day and he wandered down there and caught 220lb first time he ever saw one. And caught hard. I am I no way saying I would ever use one but every house dog I've ever had hated hogs from Boston terrier greatdane basset hound and rat terrier I have now. He was also not afraid to through down with another dog if u didn't watch him. Josh called a few times wanting to breed to him wen he was first wanting to go to one but never did and he died shortly after bout two yrs ago now only pic I got right now but he was normally bout 200 lbs real bulky for great Dane. And wasn't to clumsy wen he got bout three then he be came fat