thanks everyone,well i tried the food thing we had swedish meatballs last night and i tried it when he got the meatballs out of my hand he still backed way up so i switched to the gravy and thats when it changed he was all around me then but when i picked him up he got real stiff and made a moaning sound with his mouth kinda open and soon as let him down he was real happy again and just stayed back for a while but its lots better now,he just don't want to be touched, but will come to you sometimes if he thinks its ok.i got some pictures of him now that are alot better but if he gets close to the porch he gets under it and don't come out and if i get him out he is yapping and trying to bite but i think when he comes out on his own he is fine anyways.