anyone have a jagd or patterdale

Knightstock, that is true about the jagds in their GERMAN origin and standards and I have only hunted with a handful that were actually silent/semi silent, most open like a hound, they squwall and squeak instead of bawl, sounds like a dog is getting ripped in half and takes some getting used to listening to the banshees in the woods

JAGDS are not even in the same category as Jack Russels or many other breeds IMO. Just because they are small and are terriers its like comparing a bluetick to Pitbull not the same temperments drives or dispositions.

Even my silent jagd terrier (the only one I have kept out of several I have had, he will still go open when he gets to running a track really fast, he just does not stay open, he does not catch every thing, and thats the reason he is still on my yard.