Line-Breeding Project

Well, its a big gamble really. I have seen it done many times and I have done it myself . For a big percentage of them they were duds . The other little part of them made dogs but a only a small small part of them . Doing a bro sister breeding really is for noting more than brood stock everyone seems to think it concentrates the gene pools and that they make great producing dogs and keeps the bloodline tight which it does and some do make great producing dogs but no more better than a half bro x half sister breedings its a myth if you ask me and you are playing Russia Roulette with your breeding progam if you don't watch out.

The other side of this that is not in any books laying on some PHD professors desk you read or in some know all's pea brain. When you do a bro x sister breeding you concentrate the blood so hard that when you do go and do a out cross and I mean one that is not related in anyway those pups come out and you are saying man these suckers are gonna be the real deal they are straight 50/50 cross . Well the dogs come out and just don't show up they are still sluggish some have this wrong some ain't got this and you are saying what the hell.

Well what has happened is your bro x sister breedings is so concentrated that even when you done the full out cross to no kin the dogs are still inbred !!!!!!! In other words the out cross was not enough to break down the gene pool from the concentrated bro x sister breeding you done and there fore the pups show to be a true 50/50 cross on paper they are not in mother natures eyes and in the pups blood. These pups could still be 3/4 the bro x sister breeding in reality are they could still even be 7/8's the bro x sister breeding in reality and mother natures eyes. Paper don't mean crap it is just a tool a map to get to were you want to be but you better know how to read dogs and mother nature too if not you in for along long ride .

So now what do you do . Well you got to take those pups the suppose to be 50x50 pups and out cross again and again doing a full out cross no kin and then the pups come out and guess what now they are starting to show some vigor again some of them but lets say you got a liter of 8 and 4 show great and look great and 4 are still sluggish some things still wrong no wind lets say no stamina and maybe still down in weight . Well there you go four took the true cross this time and four did not . So now what ahhahahahahaahhah well thats when you be come a dog man and dog breeder you take the four that showed great and you go back in to your family line making great dogs and the other four if you did not cull them you take one that you think is the best and if you want cross him again to bring out the true 50 x 50 cross in his are her pups , but for Gods sake don't take one of them and breed back into you family line if you do you can wreck the whole damn thing by sending unwanted family gens back into your clean family and buddy you got a mess on your hands.

So, in my experience and in all my Buddy's experiences there is really no reason to do a bro x sister breeding if you don't know what you are doing it spells big big trouble .

Also as I have said paper don't mean jack you have to read the dogs and mother nature . A true bro x sis breeding may take you two three straight out crosses just to get the 50 x 50 pups you are wanting in the flesh and not on paper, so my question why the hell even mess with it .

Again reading paper is one thing you can wad it up throw it in the trash but raising pups for two years and reading dogs and mother nature is truly another and much much harder and expensive .

My opinion is why not just do 3/4 cull the dogs and bring them back into the family line slowly with down the line kin and you still have nuff cross in them to make the difference with out the cross you have noting thats what people need to understand .

Some of you are gonna say Aw this ole man is blowing smoke but this is 30 years of breedings dogs every which way a man can breed a dog and that is not to mention if you add up all my old friends time in breeding that had more than I have like . Carver, Elliott, Clemmons, Hall , Smith , Hammonds , Jones, Mayfeild , and many many more great breeders you dont pick up dog number 2 for 30 yrs and dont see and do all this without learning something.

But then again to each his own do if the notion hits you and expeirnce it yourself.

Mike dont get caught up in your bloodline dont go blind those crosses in those dogs are just as important as your on line is . Many many breeders have gone blind on their onlines and the line has paid the ultimate price. Just remember that cross is what is making those dogs along with your line you only need so much of both your dogs now have told you that by the way they are so listen to your dogs man not to paper !

Just my two cents !