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noelle
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« Reply #100 on: July 18, 2011, 11:19:44 pm »

Man, I don't even know where to start with your post.  First off, your gyp isn't linebred, and she doesn't come from any "well renowed bloodlines."  Should you decide to breed her, whatever you breed her to will be a complete outcross.  In your previous post, you mention you wanted to bring her into "your line" for some desirable traits.  Unfortunately, breeding dogs isn't like mixing paint and you stand just as good a chance of bringing only her undesirable traits in as you do her good qualities.  I'm honestly a bit confused...one post you mention how good she is, next post she "was" good but now only hunts with a particular dog of your and now she's a long range help dog.  Why would you even CONSIDER breeding her?

What I talked about in my original post was the foundation dogs of a breeding program.  Again...start with trash, end up with trash.  I believe in breeding tight and outcrossing only when necessary.  Outcrossing a tight line has the potential to produce some excellent dogs, but it comes with risk.

The most important aspect of ANY breeding program is to not be kennel blind about the dogs in front of you.  

As far as training being 90% of a dog...I'll respectfully disagree.  I have 6 month old pups that will consistantly roll and hunt a mile deep and bay anything that moves, yet I refuse to take credit for any type of training.  I haven't done anything but put feed to these dogs...seldom even touch them.  It's breeding and genetics that makes them what they are.  Your right...pride and satisfaction do play a part in my breeding program, but there's only one person my dogs have to satisfy and thats the one buying the feed.  I could care less what anyone else thinks because I'm honestly not in the market to sell dogs.
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 I recall saying she is a long range help dog and that's it... She won't find hogs and won't go to a bay unless she's 50yds away and then she mite not!!! And far as range goes it does no good to go a mile and don't ever find hogs that good dogs at 200yds picked up she ran past... Whether it was a one time cross or not I heard so much about the Winchester/tweety/brandy/hunter and all the other dogs of Kin to her and was really excited but as you can tell I'm not excited anymore. She will find a hog every now and then on accident but that's not a hog dog to me. And Any dog that is taught the desire to want a hog bad enough will go out and find one, stay with it, bay it...just like a guy that wants a dog like that will sell his truck to buy one. Sure the breeding has alot to do with it but not everything. I bet most young dogs Runnin out a mile at 8mths old finding hogs have great bloodlines, and Ur prolly not training them anything, but I bet their Runnin with a mentor that's showin them the ropes! If Ur young dogs go out All on their own a mile and find a hog the first time with no training whatsoever the u sure as hell have something to brag about and I envy you and my whole outlook has changed. But if not I still think they have to have some training or an old dog to run with. I imagine all Cur dogs came from Workin dogs far enough back before they were crossed up and stuff like that. I got her cuz I heard good things about the breeding and wanted to possibly cross her with mine but I haven't, she was doin good when I got her I thought until I got a gps that told the truth, and hunted her with another dog and realized she wasn't doin nothin but Runnin a mile off in a straight line and younger dogs found hogs in front of her consistently it just took me a while to notice. Wasn't hunted with junk and was put all in hog sign. Sorry u got confused...I do believe a good dog Is born but a great dog is made and nothing is gonna change that opinion so mite as well jump back on track and everybody do things however they want to.

Mike I understood that you were breeding pups out of two of Ur dogs that were out of the same dogs and the background on the tweety dog is unknown so Ur basically starting a line breeding program recently
based on what she has proved and produced which is basically starting a line of dogs out of another line of dogs... I didn't mean that Molly was line bred sorry for the misunderstanding, just meant that she was suppose to be out of some proven dogs that y'all had bred and are starting to line breed off some of the same blood... No matter how good a dogs u breed there will always b culls... Unfortunately I got a cull I wish I coulda ended up with one that was as good as yalls are but she's just not and there could b dozens of factors as to why she isn't. No offense meant towards Ur dogs and I'm sure their good or u wouldn't b breeding them and everyone talkin so much good stuff about all of those dogs. I think I'm the one that is confused lol I thought u were breeding one of mollys littermates to a half sibling or something like that. Hope they turn out good and sorry for Gettin this all off track hope it gets back to the main subject
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