I havent read all 5 pages of this thread but I would like to say that two of our best hog dogs were given to us by an old cowboy who was fixing to cull them as cowdogs because they were too rough on the cattle. He told me that a dog that was bred for cattle but was on the rough side would make a good hog dog, and danged if he wasn't right.
I wouldn't trade those two for anything. These two were still young when we got them but he said that he could already tell that they were going to be too rough. THey are our Red and Sweetpea, full brother and sister.
Just curious what does too ruff really mean??? When i was selling started dogs and somebody came back and said the dog is too ruff, it usually meant the guy with started dog did not have them under control on voice comand, in the old days i have seen peeps takes 22 rat shot and shoot dogs that had to much bite on them and were locking up on ears or noses and too agressive or hanging on tails, seems like a single bull in a cleaned up pasture of cows was always a lot of trobule for some who could not read there dogs enuff to get them to entice the bull to chase them to the pens or drive him out from a oak tree mott, its a fine line and many never get it I used to wonder if they would have had a Tritronics collar with a buzz before shock option they could have got the dog to understand what was wanted, pressure to move the cow, or make a errant cow stay in the herd or put a bite on one to make it try to escape from a thicket I would take the dog back anyways and never argued, i fugured if they could not get the dog under voice comand they prob burn it up with the tritronics collar in ignorance or anger I still remember hands quirting and scolding curs that were making cattle bleed during the screwworm times, if a dog bit a cow it was instant next day doctoring and biting was very frowned on, you never hardly ever see all of the roping and draging wild cattle or letting dog chew up a animal, it cost to much, people took longer to let the dogs stir the animal and sat on a horse for hours letting them get bayed up and settle into a herd So many want to turn dogs loose, go to the cow or cowherd and immegaitely start driving them, if they dont drive 1th thing comes next is the rope or running the cows from behind and about to run over the cowdogs, I am glad they worked for you, was wondering as well if the 2 dogs you got catch or just bay tight or wll not touch a hog or will catch if another dog catches or what did you ever get to see the cowboy that gave yall the dogs who said they were too ruff??? Were these dogs of yalls hard to handle or hard headed when you started using them??
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