Gentlemen I just wanted to know what type of pack y'all run and the reasons behind your choice. I have both types of dogs myself and I like the looser baying dogs but to be honest the rougher dogs are producing more hogs. Usually approaching a bay the hogs are breaking on the loose dogs and rough dogs have the sucker on lock down. Around here these hogs have gotten dog smart and it is obvious. If I could find a loose dog that could a bay i'ld rather that pack due to vet and stitching work. If you have this dog line let me know and old be happy to test them out.