I do use the red ryder to reach out and touch them when they want to bark and am consistent with it until the dogs learn...
My dad use to do the same until I asked him to stop. I walked into a bay with my 357 rifle and when the dogs saw it they started backing out slowly.
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ours will leave out like scalded dogs...
I use a cap pistol to call the pups at feeding time and it works. I use a 22 mag now but used to carry a 22 lr.