Cross them with a Doberman and a dogo and you'll really have something

dont forget the poddle
Standard sized poodles are dead game for sure if given a chance, i rather have a poodle pack than idiot blue heelers who specialize in chewing off trailer wires and emergency brake cables on new dodge truckslol I saw where a guy bought a blue heeler to try to hunt hogs with and all of his blackmouth curss died as soon as he put them in the pen with them, all of the east texas curs commited dogashamedaside because they did not want to drink water where sheep dog drank!!!lol