Message #296020

[pigrig]

ok i think i have it sorted : i like all my dogs to catch there own pigs whether ( in kiwi terms) im running bailers or holders or a mixture of both . i dont use vests i find them far to restrictive but i do use rip collars on any hard holders and somtimes younger dogs until i can see that they arnt going to do anything dumb . smart dogs dont get ripped unless they are plain unlucky