Not trying to be smart, but why cant you post the ped? I might be able to tell you about the ancestry but I have to know who they are, specific names. Sounds real close to what ive got.
His money maker(competition)gyp was not supposed to be bred but his wife put her in the wrong kennel(no roof) and he came otside to her locked up with his. My dad and uncle have known him a longgg time so He gave me her. He gave me the registration invade he ever wanted to breed back as this is the only female out his gyp. Other then that, I can only breed her for hunting no papers involved and no plotts. At least until he wants to breed back. And i will only breed if she turn out like I hope. Have you had much luck with them being silent or close too?
