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« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2012, 02:26:54 pm »

The argument of "if you don't like _____, then leave" or "if you don't like _____, then go back to your home" are weak arguments.  Debate is fundamental in this country, unlike many of the countries "we" tend to rail against.  So disagreeing is not a basis to leave.

Noah is right about "smells".  Cultures vary.  Even cultures within our country.  Consider for a  moment the many ethic groups within the U.S. with different "smells".  Heck, think about native indians.

There is some handsoap that is dispensed where my wife works  ...  and she washes her hands with.  Drive me out of a room.  Literally, I leave.  I find it offensive.  Of course, she then gets offended that I express my displeasure  ...  and I end up in a no win situation.  So I guess even within subsets of a culture, where there is no cultural variance  ...  smells can still be offensive.

What we need to focus on is what we have in common.  Are they good people?  Are they trying to provide for the families?  Are they trust worthy? Etc.

very good points of view rl. now can you answer the question you ask of, are they trust worthy? they play for the americans while on military bases over there by day and some play for the enemy by night. some are forced into it bc of threats of their families being killed, but can that reasoning be cooberated truthfully with out a bias opinion from the family members? are they good people? again, goes back to trust. what makes them good people? and your next question is are they trying to provide for their families? are they doing it for the better good of their selves, or are they doing it to gain intel on troop numbers, types of equipment, responce time to a rocket/motor attack for getting ground units mounted and out the gates, to getting attack birds aloft to assist in the recovery of the enemy who launched the attack? there are different variables in all these questions on both side, and i have seen it first hand from a soldiers stand point and now a civilian contractor over there. they are not our friends, but yet not all are our enemy, they and as we do, walk a fine line of trust. just like the saying says. (keep your friends close, but keep your enemy closer) we are doing that, and they too are doing it.
now lets come to america. do you think its fare for americans to be denide government loans for a business, but yet a a completely new immigrant can get a 7yr grant or loan to open up a business, paid by yours and my tax dollars? there are to many bleeding hearts out there that say, well they are of a poor and uneducated culture (not race), when yet there are americans who come from poor and illiterate backgrounds, some choose to be that way, and some are born into it with no hope of getting ahead, because of a viscious cycle of the wealthy keeping the little man down. the poor always getting screwed over by the rich. always have, always will. does money make them better than those that dont have money? only for education, living conditions and just plain living in its own, but as a person, are they better, do they have better values, are they honest hard workers, or just honest thieves with money and power over the poor? 
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Why should I trade one tyrant three thousand miles away for three thousand tyrants one mile away? An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as easily as a king can!
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