So before I go to fair they are pups but there drive is a good hyperness but unless I have a treat they will come u think shocking them will help our scare them not to come?
Like I said friend, situational, I didn't know they were pups, but, I personally don't care what age they are. Any dog getting turned loose should have basic handle. Come here is as basic as it gets.
Shocking them can ruin them if a person doesn't use the training method appropriately. Notice that I said at the next step in the wrong direction should be met with appropriate correction. This means you say come, they step towards you, you praise, they turn their head and twitch their shoulder to bolt and you buzz them at a tolerable but firm level for a moment. They will inevitably make a move as a reaction to the pain. If this move is to you, they have chosen correctly and will receive praise when you get hands on them. If the move is away from you they need to receive another bump until they step your direction. I believe a shock collar should be the same as an invisible leash. When they take appropriate actions, they have slack, when they disobey, they get a tug.
Also one should do all they can to not let the dog assosiate the handler with the pain so much as thinking its their own actions that are causing discomfort.
