all of this is good advice . remember there are many settings on the shockers when starting out you need to establish EACH dogs setting. don't just go out there and holler here and try to fry them if they don't come . and above all handle on a dog works alot better when they like you in the first place .
X100.....and BIG amen to that. Although I have done it in the past, the waaaaay back past.....I now see no need to whip a dog for disobeying you. That's what we have the shock collar for,....I don't want my dog to think I had anything whatsoever to do with it's punishment for doing the wrong thing....if you catch that dog and give it a thrashing....seems to me that the main thing it's going to get from that is to stay away from you....which is exactly what I don't want the dog to think. Just my opinion......but it's worked dang well on mine so far.
when you call the dog to whip him, all the dog is getting out of it is that when you call it will get whipped...then the dog learns he can out run you so now you have re-reinforced the idea for the dog to run from you...just the opposite of what was trying to be accomplished...
