Thanks Shawn....your male deos resemble Shiner..how is he bred? The female is the one you considered selling awhile back correct? they both look pretty nice.
Not really sure on Buddy's breeding, my niece came up with him from a friend of hers who had mistakenly bought him thinking he'd look like an english bulldog...

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my niece gave him to me.
Yeah I was thinkin of sellin Roxie but the wife put the brakes on that, I think she'd be a good breeding dog to a smaller male ab, like Buddy but as far as her catching she's just to big and clumsy...she's fast, and athletic, but really to big.