1st timers

Your right Jon...learning by example is great. I'm not telling anyone it's wrong to start a pup this way.
I just think 4 months is early to be on the ground running with the big dogs....at that age a pup doesn't even have all its motor skills going good. Typically they are still a bit clumsy. Another thing to think about...if a 4 month old pup is lucky enough...and only gets rolled up by a hog and not killed....it can seriously set them back.

I think 6 months is fine with some but not all pups.....but 4 months is pushing it.

JMO so it don't mean nothing, lol