I havent tried the worm tactic with the hook through the middle. Carolina rigging had me pulling the worm down the the bottom because of the weeds catching the line, and making the bait dissapear. I have always wanted to try a little fly fishing, guess its time i go pick out a cheap fly fishing rod and reel combo (though i have yet to see a cheap one
) and give it a whirl. Finesse fishing may be the way to do it, the more I think about it the more i start to believe that those fish have probably seen most everything a fish could see. Thanks for the idea, it might be worth trying