When you say Painter are you sure you don't mean Kershner? Those are two different strains bred by different people using different dogs. And Scott is a right in his response to you about the referral. I know from personal experience.
Hello Crib,
No, I don't mean Rod Kershner. I mean Joe Painter. I bought my first two American Bulldogs off of him in the 1980's when he lived in Chicago. He had his famous Sgt. Rock dog and a some other good ones too. Joe was always bragging on how game Rock was, but when I offered to bring one of my catchweight pits with me he clammed up real quick. I liked him anyway. He sold me two really good male pups that turned out really well. I spoke to Kershner much later, back in the mid nineties maybe. He purchased the GABC registration from Painter and had a few Painter dogs that he freely admitted he added his strain of pitbull to in order to "clean up the gene pool". My friend saw his dogs and said they all looked good and were very well taken care of. I never bought anything from him though. I remember his pitbulls were a light reddish color, forgot the bloodline. He did not stay with American Bulldogs very long. Painter got most of his early dogs from Allen Scott or Allen's cousins in Alabama. I think one was named Larry Wright. Joe purchased about 75 dogs from Allen and said there were only about 12 that he felt were pure bulldog. Most he claimed were cur or great dane mixes. Never believe everything Painter says. Contact me if you want at
gerardjohn26@yahoo.com