Whopper was off a Dogge du Bordeaux over an APBT and there was not permission to introduce this into APBT's. It was a scam to get bigger dogs for winning the most wt. pulled trophy at ADBA wt pulls. At the time this happened no one challenged it until it was impossible to get DNA samples. At this point in time the Bordeaux is not very evident except that they are bigger. The Camelot dogs tend to be bigger also. Some are pretty squatty but some have pretty good leg under them. Edgar did not do the breeding on Whopper, but took Whopper so he had a shot at the MW Pulled trophies. He had nothing but smaller pull dogs up to that point. Heck he won Nationals with a 3 legged dog once!
Well said.