There's dog's here that have been bred to do this for hundreds of years it's nothing new you're not doing anything that hasn't been done before I like to see the pictures of the hog's you Catch And your dog's Dean but you're coming off as arrogant and rude to other's because they run different dog's than you.Mocking men who have been breeding dogs for 30yrs because they haven't switched to a new style in your eye's that's really nothing New at all.Hyan many FL dog's will put teeth in hog get it stopped bay by themselves and hang it when you show up warrant has owned true one out dogs I own a couple true one out dogs and many many others do as well.When someone said that there's many kinds of dogs that do the same thing as in find and catch hog's you shut them down and mocked them throwing your dogs down there throat and discredited any breeds but your own.You have told me in text that you can't believe that cur dogs down here do exactly what you're dogs do but they do and have been doing It for hundreds of years CUR DOGS!!!people have different preferences on how they want to hunt and their dog's to perform I have rough curs that have been bred to do this and also like to hunt longer ranging bay type dogs and have even been getting into some casting type dogs. I have respect for all aspects of hog dogging and the men who are dedicated to breeding better dogs and the future of the sport. I hate to say it but the last couple of days Dean you've been sounding a lot like Oconee and have came off quite offensive.
I'm not suggesting people change styles or dogs. I'm simply trying to illustrate to people that if stopping and catching runners in the brush is so much harder than the open which everyone on here has agreed upon once somewhere on this forum, then why is it there not stopping and catching pigs in the open when they find them. I typical target pigs in the open and that's where most of my pigs are caught as a result. That's where catching is the easiest for dogs right??? If so, good this is my premise to my point. Why do I need to come put my dogs in the brush when the point I'm trying to make is if others dogs can't do it in the open, then what's really going on in the brush to allow such success in catching pigs in the brush. Nobody has even attempted to answere this that I've read. It's the point to the hole thread. This having better dogs than thow that so many are reading into and getting offended by it not me saying it, it's them reading into it and going off the rails with it.
Everytime I've ever feilded a question on here about rcd's, a dang 4 page back and forth argument breaks out mostly by people that don't even run rcd's or haven't been able to do it successfully. Which I pointed out breed matters, things matter. Every reason I've ever heard given on here was to me either self induced or inappropriate breeding to get what they were trying to accomplish. A good rcd is the most miss understood dog ever discussed on here and it's talked about fairly often. For someone to come along and get the truth out about such dogs and combat the myths and missunderstandings and give explanations and break stuff down the way I have is about time and been long over do. I knew I would be in the hot seat but I was big enough to do it. I'm using the most easy example to understand, hunting in the open to illustrate my points. Sometime the descussion gets pulled one way or another but still I've maintained what I believe to be a steady direction to this thread. If people take things out of context and turn this into a my dog vs your dog or style thread then why is that my fault. Could I have illustrated my points better? Probably but if you have seen where I could help people understand my points, then why haven't you helped?
As for the guy with the 25 yrs experience in breeding dogs that's now turned into 30, he didn't have to says what he did. He has 25 years worth of breeding the same type of dog he started with and has now that do the same thing. And his big accomplishment he speaks of is they all look alike. Ummm, that isn't what this thread is about. It's about dogs stopping pigs, not best in show. He said grit don't stop pigs and give the slowest cd used as an example that not surprisingly couldn't catch a pig in 3/4 of a mile. Ummm does he take me for stupid? I treated him the way he spoke of his experiences and examples. Which by the way he turned around and tried to lend credibility to himself by posting a picture of a dog he said sucked pigs up in the open. So which is it according to him, more grit and speed catches pigs one the dogs terms or not? He made both points in the same thread. I said a few more things than that but so did he. You feel that I'm supposed to lay down and let this person keep spreading crud about dogs which he don't breed or use and that tells me I'm wrong. No, negative, I have a backbone and knew what I was up against and prepared to stand and dispelling all the propaganda and myths about rcd type dogs. Don't take an rcd to stop a pig in the open but this post is long enough without having to re-examine every detail.
I'm not doing this people like you Casey nor am I doing this for people like Parker. I'm doing this for the people who are interested in getting on the right track with rcds and not taking the long way around, not wasting their time with stuff the realize later etc. I have people contact me on a regular basis that want to pick my brain about various rcd's but they won't dare speak up on here. Why is that Casey? It's because of the bias, the crud that gets started as a result of talking about such dogs by people touting their experience which often times has very little if any to do with rcd's. Just like the guy in the last thread that asked about rough or rougher for small places. How many bs answers did he get that truely addressed his problem. Several, and one of the bs answers come from Parker who said call the dogs back. We'll if you had dogs like his, which the guy evidently did, you would need to call the dogs back in order for the not to get on the neighbors before catching a pig. The guy asked about catching pigs BEFORE they pigs could get onto the neighbors property and what kinda dog to use. Not what kinda instrument to call dogs back because the dogs he was using couldn't do the kinda job he was wanting out of a dog. No my respect is not to the one that gives the bs answer and fails to answer the question. My respect is for the person asking the question. When try to answer a question, I deal with the question asked. If I don't have an answer that works for the parameters given, I don't answer, very a simple. If your seeing red right now, I'm sorry but that's just how it is with me.
You don't see me given advice on guys asking questions about hounds. You don't see me tell in no someone a dog that runs a track hard and fast is more successful and better than a dog that swings one. You don't see me contradicting what the good houndsmen of the forum say about there dogs or hunt style. I know enough to answer a question or two but why would I? I'm not a hound man, I don't hunt them, etc. I have more respect for the good houndsmen of the forum than to take a question better answered by them. I could speculate on things but provide answers the way my minds eye sees them and what little info I know but there are aging much more qualified guys to answer hound questions. To me, if you can't examine things in a holistic manner your not gonna analyze things correctly. If you can't do either of these for one reason or another than you really are limited to what you can truthfully speak about and feild.
Pigs are part of the equation too. You can't disregard them. If you don't know pigs you can't really examine things from a holistic standpoint. This thread included the mentality of pigs. It's the question I have been setting up for people to hit on and look at. It's the big reason why dogs that can't stop a pig in the open can so successfully do it in the brush. I've been trying to make this about pig mentality from the beginning and using open country and dogs the common dog not being able to stop a pig in the open but soooo often and successfully getting it done in the brush where it should be harder to do. Maybe I was setting the question up wrong for most, but I at least expected someone to pick it up. Instead it was read into as my dogs are better than your dogs thread which in no post did I purposefully portray this
