To get it back on topic some, does superior gameness mean it's a great catch dog? Not really. As was said, dead game means the dog lost. I have been around plenty pits that were awesome catch dogs and plenty that weren't but we're super game. I've also been around big American bulldogs, dogos, and the big finder holder types that were way superior as catch dogs to game pits. I think everyone agrees that know one on here likes a big, slow, bad breathing, sloppy dog.
Good point and I agree, I don't think gamebred dogs overall make the best catch dogs, in fact depending on what you are calling a gamebred dog I don't think they are suited to be catch dogs. I would say the best catch dogs I have seen have all been quite a few generations removed from the pit. This is just my opinion.
I agree a lot with this statement, the biggest problem I’ve seen with using dogs from the box to hunt with that they shake bad once they have a bite, trying to disable their opponent instead of worrying about control, and I’ve seen it to many times they get so worked up that when they go into a bay they usually bounce off the hog and miss, this not always the case though, my best catchdogs were never my straight game bred dogs when I had them, I always found the most success with half to a quarter hot blood crossed over some cooler milder stock...
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Aren’t they culls then? Cus if you send a gamebred dogs that is bred for the pit then they catch a hog n not grab a dog then are they still game? If they are being bred for 100’s of years to fight other dogs then they are around a bunch of other dogs n don’t touch one of them then are they really a gamebred dog or are they just a number 2ty catch dog with a bunch of game breeding?
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I’m not sure if your missing the entire point or getting so caught up in trying to prove something wrong, it’s obvious you’ve never been around many APBT, they’re not some psycho crazy maul everything in sight type of dog, yes some individuals and strains tend to be a little on the hotter side but a well rounded well bred bulldog is smart and level headed, no that does not make them culls, just better suited for a different job, your wanting so bad to criticize the APBT, they’re not the best catchdog, no style is, they’re not the baddest dog on the planet, even Achilles and Sampson had their weak spots, they’re no better than a CD dog the size of a baby hippo or the size of a flea, they work better for some and not at all for others, they’re not any better than a dogo or American bulldog, some just prefer them, what separates them from any other breed and that is for what they were bred for, no other animal on the planet other than “game” fowl, has been so stringently bred for one attribute than the APBT, not the dogo, not the American bulldog, although some are match quality, not anything, there’s gameness in all facets of life all around us, but please tell me any other breed of dog that has been created on the premise of gameness, nowhere in the black book of hog Doggery are you going to see that they’re solely the best nor the worst, some prefer them and some don’t, what separates them from other dogs is what the purpose of the origin and foundation that the breed was created for in the first place...
Not trying to prove anything l. if u tell me that the dog is bred to be a game dog and it’s main purpose as you said is to be game and to be tested against other dogs and they don’t do that then what are they? A cull are they not? You telling me the dog will know hey I am in the pit time to turn on my dog fighting side of my mind then take them out the ring and the dog says hey there’s a bunch of dogs but I’ll catch the pig instead? Your telling me they are that smart? You know nothing of what type of dogs I have bin around or the type of foul either. You keep saying they were bred for the pit they are the best in the pit they are this and that but how can you say that when you are telling me dogs that don’t do what they were bred to do aren’t doing that at a bay? Yea I bin around gamedogs that don’t show no dog aggression then snap one day and want to kill every dog around them. They are game dogs bred for the pit and wanna do the job they were bred for or they are gamedogs that are culls but do good as hog dogs period you can’t have both.
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