Australian Bandog

I’m pretty up to date in the Bandog game. Have a good working relationship with quite a few breeders and Have access to a lot here on the midatlantic

The leucero line as well as the andante/on-off/extasy are all the same thing. I’ve Seen a handful of those dogs work - most arnt what they were in the early 2000s. They are mostly very defensive, not very prey driven - PP dogs who are harder to train in high level sport work. They excel as Home guardians and I can see how - in your experience it was so-so on hogs.

Roger Williams did have some neo abs and neo ab x dutchie crosses. The dutchie blood added that speed and herder intensity. But you also saw a decrease in pain thresholds with half herder blood.

As for the neos used - there was some controversy that the neos in SA went full blooded and were instead Bandogs. Not that it mattered a whole lot imo. But the individuals used - is what makes the crosses.

I’d take a driven Neo over a flat Bandog if it made for a Stable Balanced working cross.

With that said -

Not all sport dogs make good PP dogs
Not all PP dogs make good sport dogs
Not all mandogs make good hogdogs
Not all hogdogs make good mandogs.

And that’s the difficulty in creating a “dual purpose dog” yes there’s beauty in the specialization aspect. Individual breed ARE specialists.

But what’s even harder is maintain a level of balance and stability in a population of dogs capable of doing both.

The greatest fear is that I’d run into the problem of jack of all trades master of none.

And that starts with ensuring the individuals selected and incorporated in a program are balanced, thoroughly tested, and placed in the hands of skilled individuals willing to provide honest and critical feedback.

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