Dang Stoked, how did you get in so good with Garmin?
I like mine alot. it allows me to see what my dogs arnt doing.
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Takes the geuss work out of where your dogs are.
I had a lot of issues with the dc20's. I was very frustrated to say the least (in the end.) I typed a long letter about the issues I was having and my frustrations. I also told them about the weaknesses the collars had. I didn't just talk to some random garmin rep, I got to the big-cheese. He wanted to work with me, so he shipped me a new dc30 before they released them to the public. The deal was that I would give him all the feedback about the new collars. I've kept my end of the bargin and they're already looking into a newer collar design. I told him about the dc30's charging issue. It's a pain trying to keep them clean, cleaning them, and getting them to charge. I have also told him about the antenna design. The collar doesn't run through the tracking collar loops very well because of the little box that's mounted to the collar strap (I forgot the name of it.) Anyway, the standard collar length isn't long enough either. Also, the collar still has a weak spot for water to get in. It's not anywhere near as bad as the dc20, but still has issues. Additionally, the collars are junk and fall apart if you hunt them hard. They need to go back to a biothane collar. Anyway, I can go on and on. Looking forward to the dc40, if that's what it's going to be called.