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« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2010, 10:18:07 pm »

well (just my experiences...) where i hunt i do have the ability to go 2-3 miles and still be on land that i have permission.on most of the places i hunt... like anyone though i dont like going that far but sometimes you just got too if you can. i prefer MY STYLE of dogs! in my eyes my dogs are long range dogs but they are the kind that start short and keep getting furthur and furthur as they work. sometimes i go out and they are bayed within 300yds sometimes i go and they bay farther i have had them strike as far out as 1.5 miles and bayed at 2.4 miles on the garmin. the places i hunt are big so you never know where the hogs are. i dont have the ability to drive into most of them so i walk just about everywhere. i have nothing  against a short range dog and would not cull one that produced for me. i hunted shot range dogs for a pretty good while when i fist started (bout 5 yrs ago) and loved it but eventually i got ahold of along range dog and fell in love with that style cause my dry runs didnt happen near as often. thats why i prefer MY STYLE of dogs. and let me say MY STYLE of long range dog IS DIFFERENT from anyone elses cause my style is MY PREFERENCE same as anyone elses is THEIR PREFERENCE.
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« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2010, 10:23:20 pm »

well (just my experiences...) where i hunt i do have the ability to go 2-3 miles and still be on land that i have permission.on most of the places i hunt... like anyone though i dont like going that far but sometimes you just got too if you can. i prefer MY STYLE of dogs! in my eyes my dogs are long range dogs but they are the kind that start short and keep getting furthur and furthur as they work. sometimes i go out and they are bayed within 300yds sometimes i go and they bay farther i have had them strike as far out as 1.5 miles and bayed at 2.4 miles on the garmin. the places i hunt are big so you never know where the hogs are. i dont have the ability to drive into most of them so i walk just about everywhere. i have nothing  against a short range dog and would not cull one that produced for me. i hunted shot range dogs for a pretty good while when i fist started (bout 5 yrs ago) and loved it but eventually i got ahold of along range dog and fell in love with that style cause my dry runs didnt happen near as often. thats why i prefer MY STYLE of dogs. and let me say MY STYLE of long range dog IS DIFFERENT from anyone elses cause my style is MY PREFERENCE same as anyone elses is THEIR PREFERENCE.

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« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2010, 10:29:29 pm »

well (just my experiences...) where i hunt i do have the ability to go 2-3 miles and still be on land that i have permission.on most of the places i hunt... like anyone though i dont like going that far but sometimes you just got too if you can. i prefer MY STYLE of dogs! in my eyes my dogs are long range dogs but they are the kind that start short and keep getting furthur and furthur as they work. sometimes i go out and they are bayed within 300yds sometimes i go and they bay farther i have had them strike as far out as 1.5 miles and bayed at 2.4 miles on the garmin. the places i hunt are big so you never know where the hogs are. i dont have the ability to drive into most of them so i walk just about everywhere. i have nothing  against a short range dog and would not cull one that produced for me. i hunted shot range dogs for a pretty good while when i fist started (bout 5 yrs ago) and loved it but eventually i got ahold of along range dog and fell in love with that style cause my dry runs didnt happen near as often. thats why i prefer MY STYLE of dogs. and let me say MY STYLE of long range dog IS DIFFERENT from anyone elses cause my style is MY PREFERENCE same as anyone elses is THEIR PREFERENCE.

 How long does it take you to "walk" to a bay 2 miles away?? Just curious!
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« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2010, 10:36:31 pm »

well im a whole 23 yrs old and still in pretty good shape so if its just me and one of my in shape buddies around 20 minutes a mile so 2 miles i would say around 45-50 minutes give or take. but me being the only one with a compass or tracking system if other people go with us that may not be so quick it has taken nearly 2 hours to get to a bay at 1.5 miles.  its definately not fun walking that far but gotta love my hunting especially when there is a good pig on the other side of the dogs.
 
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« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2010, 10:44:23 pm »

In the hill country, where everything is covered in cedars, a long dang time.  especially when the dogs are out of hearing.  sometimes it seems like all you do, or at least for me is track, walk, track, walk, track, walk until you get to where you can hear them baying.  I have rarely, if ever, had to go two miles, but i do understand what he is talking about.  I just don't have that kind of property.  If my dogs are two miles from me, they are on a different property.  

That being said, my shorter range dogs suit me very well.  my properties are not big, so I don't need a dog that will range out a long way just to find a track.  mine average about a 400-600 yard loop before they check in, and will usually take off in a different direction once they do.  Once they find a track though, they will keep on it.  Also, being pretty new to the sport, I feel like shorter range dogs give me at least the illusion of having a bit more control.  I have hunted with longer range dogs, and enjoyed doing it, they just don't "fit" most of the places I have to hunt.  
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« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2010, 10:48:42 pm »

Thanks for the response Hogzilla24! I was curious as my dogs are very short range but yesterday they went out outta my hearing range and I was dreading the JOURNEY to them when I found them beat and tired back at the truck!  laugh I need a Garmin! lol
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« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2010, 10:54:03 pm »

the garmin is sure worth the money but if you run dogs that are consictenly over 6/10s a mile you had better get the long range antenna. some places i hunt i get great signal with short one but others i can hardly pick up 700 yrds. but you say you dogs are short range so u should ok..(NO offense) 
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« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2010, 11:58:32 pm »

I dont no why but my dogs didnt go outtwo miles and guess what we caught pigs why does every one want a dog that leaves the country and passes up hogs.

Hog density has alot to do with it. We have also killed 300+ hogs in a year with dogs that don't even go 2 miles. You can not take those same dogs, or any dogs, and go to north or west texas and do that.

The last part of your statement is not totally accurate IMO, I use to be of the same thinking. Most all hunters, short or long range, expect there to be some thing at the end of the line if an experienced dog goes out on a trail. What the difference is, if my dogs goes out 600yds I expect a bark. In north texas with a plot they may not expect a bark out of a dog until, Idk, 5 miles. What I have seen when hunting cold nosed, long range dogs in high hog density areas is not hogs being passed up but more of an efficiency issue. Its hard to hunt a specific area with dogs that range out real far looking for trails. Dogs that road or wind can be more effecient in that scenerio.

That is just my take, from my limited experience. I will also add, every dog has its day. I have legged hogs with one bay dog barking at them, but that don't make it right. Smiley

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« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2010, 09:42:26 am »

its all in what u like. i got a cur that will stay on a hog 3 to 4 hours but i don't consider him long range, he'll just stay on a hog when he gets on one. I can't hunt him like i want because i don't have that many big places to hunt. but i have hunted my dogs behing long range dogs and found hogs that they passed up. who knows maybe they struck a track a 100 yards out and just ran the hog that far from us.
sometimes i would like a dog to roll out until he found a hog but most of the time not. because 95% of the time i would be on someone elses property. with the dogs i got now its only about 50% of the time i am one other property.
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« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2010, 10:08:33 am »

Bryaant I guess I just dont no as much abiut hunting as u But i will Invite u two a two man tournament when every you are ready so get ur long range dogs ready and lets meet at my place and lets rolenot a two man team u and ur dogs and me and my dogs since I just dont understand

I'm not sure what being knowledgeable about hunting has do with with the subject.  Unless your going to start paying their feed bill, why are you concerned with how other dogs hunt?  If your catching hogs with your own dogs isn't it all that matters?

As for your "tournament", my kennels are full of dogs that have already proven themselves to the only person that matters.
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« Reply #30 on: March 15, 2010, 10:37:43 am »

We need the smiley that is banging its head against the wall. Cheesy X2 with what Bryant said. Its one thing to discuss different styles but that is where it should stop unless you are buying for every one else.
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« Reply #31 on: March 15, 2010, 10:42:56 am »

Bryant,
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« Reply #32 on: March 15, 2010, 11:16:23 am »

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THANKS "C",,,I was just going to ask Bryant if I was invited to the two man contest!! Grin Let me know Bryant, I personally own one out of your kennel and he is only 9 months old but will hang with the best of them.
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« Reply #33 on: March 15, 2010, 09:12:33 pm »

hogbuyer 90% precent of the dogs on this web site can run out there and bay a hog with in hearing and thats good if you like short range dogs but wear i hunt i have a lot a land with just a few hogs and the ones that are there are pressured hard, there is know better feeling than droping a dog out on a track in the road and for him to go a mile or two to find the hog that made it to me thats a hog dog...i want a dog that can find a single hog in 3000 acres vs 30 hogs in 300 acres i guess iam more of of a dog man than a hog catcher
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