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« on: October 16, 2010, 11:57:38 am » |
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i was wondering how you guys know which of your dogs is finding. all my dogs hunt as a pack, and usually stay within about 80 yd of each other. the way i hunt is by running corn feeders. if the corn is gone, i dump my dogs. i have one dog that is alot closer range than the rest. if he doesnt see the hog within 4-500 yd he comes back. once he sees the hog he will run him up to 1000 and if he doesnt get him stopped he comes back. so its my other three im not sure about.
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sfboarbuster
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2010, 12:00:57 pm » |
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Hunt them by themselves
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John Esker
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2010, 01:07:52 pm » |
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Garmin or you go by the original bark.
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2010, 01:59:36 pm » |
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ive got a garmin. but they hunt so tight it doesnt tell you much. there is a delay in the info your gettin. as far as the bark goes, ive been told that doesnt mean anything cause some dogs take a sec to figure out the situation before they start baying. like i said, they stay tight. cant figure out which one is leading. i guess it doesnt really matter as long as your catchin hogs. but everyone likes to know whos doin the work.
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raider54
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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2010, 03:20:06 pm » |
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You have to know your dogs! Just like Coon hunters do. Which ever dog opens first, you have your winner
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2010, 03:24:58 pm » |
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You have to know your dogs! Just like Coon hunters do. Which ever dog opens first, you have your winner x2
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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2010, 03:26:30 pm » |
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That's great your dogs are hunting together. I don't run over 3 strike dogs usually just two and I can tell who strikes first just by listening. If I hunt with friends we can tell which dog finds the hog by who ever strikes first. If they are barking they are looking at a bayed hog. The Garmin helps as well.
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Reuben
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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2010, 03:27:35 pm » |
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WHICH DOG IS FINDING??? That's a good question. Some hunters think they have a good pack of strike dogs until ole Smokey gets lost or killed and all of a sudden the rest of the pack quits catching/striking hogs... So,,, having said that... We all should know what each dog in the pack is capable of doing and what role they play. It is like a football team, it takes all kinds to make a good team. A pack dog that doesn't strike but makes every step with a strike dog once the hog is bayed, and if the hog breaks bay to stick with the race until the hog is caught, then that dog is also a very important part of the team if he contributes to catching hogs. That dog might be the best stop dog in the pack. "Which dog is finding" is a good question that needs to be answered honestly and each dog in the pack needs to be evaluated correctly. But it is just as important to identify what role each dog plays and how well they play it. This way a cull won't be slipping through the cracks and it can be replaced with a better team player when the oppurtunity is there. Identifying and evaluating the find dogs is very important. This will tell us which dog is best at striking and also just might be the one that gets to breed to improve the line.
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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2010, 04:01:22 pm » |
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well ive got some buddies that think differently about the dog that barks first has found the hog. ive got a 1 1/2 old black mouth with a touch of hound somewhere way down the line. that dog has always opened first on every hog ive caught since i started hunting him. whether im hunting with just my dogs (none are finished) or my buddies "finished" dogs. they catch plenty of hogs without me and me without them. but together my pup has always opened first. they give the credit to their dogs every time. i dont argue to keep the peace. dog hunting has got to be the most competitive sport there is. and brings out the worst in some people. honestly, i can't care less whos dog found what. im having a blast regardless.
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Reuben
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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2010, 04:13:07 pm » |
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Well, Hog hunting is challenging but fun. The dog that barks first does not mean it struck first because some dogs won't open until they see the hog first and others open when they first strike a hot scent and still others might open on a colder track. Some hog hunters are so competitive that every dog hunting sounds just like there dog so any time a dog opens it is his dog that struck first... I don't like hunting with those type of hunters but tolerate them.
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog... A hunting dog is born not made...
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2010, 04:59:57 pm » |
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I fall into the knowing the individual dogs bark category.
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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2010, 05:45:44 pm » |
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i just know my dogs bark they all have different speeds and tones of barks but i don't think the first bark found the hog had the opportunity to witness it a few yrs back i was watchin a old dog a young dog on one side of a rivine my old dog was the only top notch dog i have ever owned but my pup at the time was barkin first well i seen the hog laid up under some cedar limbs my old dog was a good 20 yards in front the hog stood up as he was gettin to him i know he saw the hog first and trailed him first but the pup from 20 yards back barked first if i wouldn't of seen it i would of thought my old dog was losin his touch
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« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2010, 09:17:21 am » |
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I agree that it's just knowing your dogs and also a garmin will tell you a lot. But If you really want to find out what you got start dropping them down one at a time..
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Reuben
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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2010, 09:31:59 am » |
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I agree that it's just knowing your dogs and also a garmin will tell you a lot. But If you really want to find out what you got start dropping them down one at a time..
x2 that's the best way to find out what kind of strike dog you have or if it's a me to dog...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog... A hunting dog is born not made...
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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2010, 10:18:19 am » |
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Hunt them by themselves
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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2010, 06:56:45 pm » |
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If you have a pack of dogs on the ground how does the first bark tell you a thing? That dog didn't necessarily find that hog he was just the first one to open or he's the one who stopped it. Hunting them one on one is the only way you are going to know what kind of dogs your feeding. Might also tell you some things you didn't want to know.
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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2010, 07:43:47 pm » |
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i just know my dogs bark they all have different speeds and tones of barks but i don't think the first bark found the hog had the opportunity to witness it a few yrs back i was watchin a old dog a young dog on one side of a rivine my old dog was the only top notch dog i have ever owned but my pup at the time was barkin first well i seen the hog laid up under some cedar limbs my old dog was a good 20 yards in front the hog stood up as he was gettin to him i know he saw the hog first and trailed him first but the pup from 20 yards back barked first if i wouldn't of seen it i would of thought my old dog was losin his touch
I would give your young dog the strike! He wasnt barking just to be barking.
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raider54
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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2010, 07:54:12 pm » |
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If you have a pack of dogs on the ground how does the first bark tell you a thing? That dog didn't necessarily find that hog he was just the first one to open or he's the one who stopped it. Hunting them one on one is the only way you are going to know what kind of dogs your feeding. Might also tell you some things you didn't want to know.
his question wasnt which dog STOPPED the hog! IN any competition hunt I have ever been in, whether it be coon hunting or a beagle event the first dog to bark is the first dog to strike! If you call him struck. Unless the dog is found to be Babbleing in which case it will be penilized by the judge and will reflect on the score card. This is why a silent dog can not be legally hunted in competition. If you are hunting with silent dogs the first bark should tell you everything! "Hey Here is the Hog, I found Him".
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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2010, 08:10:21 pm » |
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YOU NEED TO HUNT YUR DOGS ONE AT A TIME, AND SEE IF THEY CAN DO THE JOB THERE SELF. THE FIRST BARK DONT MEAN number 2 IV GOT A DOG THAT WILL GO OFF THE HOOD AND NEVER SAY ANY THANG AND THE OTHER DOGS BARK, HE IS ALWAYS THE FIRST TO COME OFF HOOD, IF HE BARKS ITS BIG JUST TRY THEM LIKE THAT OR TRY 2 DOGS AT A TIME
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raider54
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« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2010, 08:17:55 pm » |
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YOU NEED TO HUNT YUR DOGS ONE AT A TIME, AND SEE IF THEY CAN DO THE JOB THERE SELF. THE FIRST BARK DONT MEAN number 2 IV GOT A DOG THAT WILL GO OFF THE HOOD AND NEVER SAY ANY THANG AND THE OTHER DOGS BARK, HE IS ALWAYS THE FIRST TO COME OFF HOOD, IF HE BARKS ITS BIG JUST TRY THEM LIKE THAT OR TRY 2 DOGS AT A TIME
If the dogs are barking before they are bayed then they are not silent. Adog that is barking means #2 to me! Because they arent supposed to say #2 until they are looking at a hog! And I understand everyone doesnt hunt silent dogs.
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