Need help with worms!!

[craig]

Ive never really had a problem with worms but about a month ago two of my three have been having what looks like little pieces of rice in the stool.  They are both drawn down and have lost some weight.  I always wormed on the 1st wih ivomec and just recetly added safeguard last month when i noticied the "rice" in thier poop. My dogs look like crap and ts driving me nuts.  Ive upped their feed but is not helping much.  Anyone have any suggestions??

yep , you got tape worms,,  well since im not a vet and i dont want to experement with my good dogs, i get the pills at the vet for tapes, just tell the vet how much your dogs weighs.. i do the same thing ivomec at the 1st of the month, but when i see tapes i go to the vet and get some pills, also make shure you dont have any fleas they transfer the tape worm eggs..
         im not saying anyone is wrong.  just my .02                                 

[Scott]

I just did the math on the Zimectrin Gold (1.55% Ivomec, 7.75% Praziquantel) Based on the canine dosage rate of each (Ivomec - .002250 mg/lb and Praziquantel - 2.5mg/lb).  The tube is advertised to treat one 1,250 lb horse based on the horse admin. rate of (Ivomec - 91mcg/lb and Praziquantel - 454 mcg/lb).  Given this info, we can calculate that the entire tube contains 113.75 mg of Ivomec and 567.50 mg of Praziquantel.  The ratio being 4.989

Using a 60lb dog for an example, to treat tapes the dog would need 150 mg of praziquantel (60lbs X 2.5mg).  Divide that by our ratio (4.989) and to administer that amount of Praziquantel to the dog would be giving the dog 30.066 mg (or cc's) of Ivomec.  A 60lb dog needs .135 cc of Ivomec.  (60lbs X .002250 mg/lb).

Based on these calculations, Scott is correct.  To treat them properly for the tapes, you would probably kill them on the Ivomec.

Just to reiterate...the dosage you normally give a dog of ivermectin for heart worms/intestinal worm removal is in micrograms...the dosage that you'd be giving your dog to get the required amount of praziquantal in zimectrin gold is in milligrams. 1 milligram (mg) = 1000 micrograms (mcg)

Regular broad spectrum wormers (such as Panacur, Safeguard, Strongid, Nemex) nor Ivomec will kill tapes.

You need Praziquantel. 

http://www.amazon.com/Fish-Tapes-Forte-170mg-Cap/dp/B0013PTIOK

This is the inexpensive way.  One of these tablets will take care of a dog 60lbs or over.