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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2011, 09:43:47 pm » |
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what do you think about rod kershner line of bull dogs i had a couple a long time ago and they were bigger than the average game bred pit ?
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« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2011, 11:27:56 pm » |
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one of my foundation females was a kershner bred ab. her top side was screamer/ venture and the bottom side was pucketts general/kirby. hard bite seemed to keep goin even though i never bred back to the kershner side in any breedings. the female patches had some dog aggression but it was controllable. even though she did kill another female ab in a yard fight after leavin my place. to this day my wife still swears patches was apbt,lol.
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« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2011, 12:27:37 am » |
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Kerschner had some real heavy Mayfield bred APBTs. I thought he got away from breeding the abs around the late 80s or real early 90s or so when he started raising the Mayfield bred APBTs. He had some of the tightest Mayfield stuff around. He got a lot of advice and pointers on breedings from Don as well. He was breeding of the purest family to put it in Donny Mayfield's words. I know he crossed some APBT from the Mayfield line into his abs at one point. He said it cleaned up the defects in the Scott's line. The APBT that he used was named Braskin, he was out of Mayfield's Frog and Sofiakis' Dianna.
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« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2011, 08:42:17 am » |
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yea i think you are right about him switching over to the mayfiels line of apbt. i had a couple from him years ago the female made a pretty nice catch dog. i now have a american bull dog from corner stone bull dogs and looking back at her pedigree way back their are some kershner ab blood way back. she catches like a freght train so far, her first catch was a 250lb plus sow down in evant at about a year old and she hit it like a grown dog.
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« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2011, 08:55:58 am » |
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I had a r kershner bitch called geisha She was dead game and would catch Like a freight train but every time I got on a big one she got cut all to Pieces on the other hand my tight bred Eli dog cowboy would catch the same Type stuff faster and harder without Taking so much as a nic
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« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2011, 01:34:51 pm » |
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mav, does your dog have fullers pretty patches way back in the ped? i have a cornerstone dog here actually thats like 6 or 7 yrs old. kershner used mayfields braskin in his abs as well as at least 2 other apbts of different lines than braskin.
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« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2011, 08:05:24 pm » |
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I just crossed an AB that goes back to WhiteFang a good bit to a Pit that is granddaughter of Bezzelbub "Blue Bubba" ( that sounds right but it has been a long time since I read or saw anything on those dogs). Does that sound right to you Gary? Watch Dog is both ABs and Pits done by Casey Coutier?
Joey
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« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2011, 08:13:24 pm » |
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hi joey and yes casey originated both the watchdog line of apbts as well as the abs.once i bought the old magazines from casey and met some followers of the apbt line i started hearing the name belzabub and had no clue what dog it was. so i asked casey and he said oh hell gary, thats blue bubba. casey and i were both shocked to find the watchdog line of apbts still has a following.i sold a set of the first 21 issues of the magazine from casey to a guy in your state about 2 years ago or so that knows you but i cant recall his name. he wanted the old mags due to the pictures etc on caseys old apbts that were in them.
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« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2011, 09:52:55 pm » |
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Blue Bubba did not miss in the Catch Trials back in the day. I think I made a good AB x Pit with those two lines, but only time will tell!
Joey
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« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2011, 10:18:52 pm » |
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garry her dam is bryna which brynas grandmother is fullers pretty patches. her sire is powells percival both owned by cornerstone. she is a pretty leggy bull dog iam pleased with her so far i will probably find the right dog to breed her after she turns two
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« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2011, 11:42:56 pm » |
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thanks mav,if you didnt figure it out,lol, im the fuller that owned patches. i have a older female here that is percival bred to semambib.
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« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2011, 08:29:11 am » |
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Gary,
I bet that was Josh Loker who got those books? I gave him an AB that went back to your Patches dog on the topside and he also has a lot of Watch Dog blood Pits. His main male is 63% Watch Dog and a very nicely built blue dog that catches hard and has no other animal aggression that he has to break it from. (Even likes Cats, which is not a good quality for any breed in my book!). Those blue Watch Dogs are built like true game dogs, with some getting to and over Catch Weight. I like them for blue dogs.
Joey
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« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2011, 10:22:01 am » |
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The pits I'm raising and using are mostly colby but they do have watchdog in there. Never got to use my main male for catching before I lost him. My female is a good natured dog with no aggression to anything but pigs. I have a son out of these 2 that at 16 months old been on 15 hogs and never misses the ear. Need to find a female for him but I"m bout to breed my female back to a stocky long legged dog that's a catchin' machine just takes him a minute to get to a 100 yd bay. My female is leggy but not real thick so i'll be getting the best of both worlds hopefully.
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« Reply #33 on: October 19, 2011, 10:28:03 am » |
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yea garry i kinda figured that one out lol. they seem to be some pretty nice dogs
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