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« on: November 25, 2011, 02:54:11 pm »

Ok i have several pups im starting here's the prob two are 7 month old ybmc's the male will watch the other dogs bay and smell the hog but won't bark the female won't slow down long enough to even look at the hog if i let the male out with her he only follows her they are liter mates the other is a male cat his problem is he won't leave me not scared of the hog just won't leave me oh he's 6 months old any input would be helpfull I think they need more time
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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2011, 03:15:11 pm »

i think you are right peewee . more time . slow and steady wins the race . i don;t even consider culling males till they are two years old gyps about 18 months.
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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2011, 04:37:50 pm »

I would seperate the two littermates. Keep them away from each other and don't let them out together. I would give them a little break and try again.
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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2011, 05:50:25 pm »

  I cull hard, at 5-7 months I show them a few hogs, and dont expect much, but they must be intrested from the start.  after 3-4 trips to a bay pen if they arent doing several things I really like, I part with them.   I dont hunt them much until close to a year old, depending on there maturity, each dog is different.   After a few trips to the woods, if they arent hunting and going to the pay I really sit back and look at what, they are doing and why.  Is it me, the hunting enviorment, are the skidish, inmature, lack of hogs they have been on, ect.   I really like a independant focused dog, not waiting another dog to find the pig.     Not to say my way is the way , or the best way, its just me.  Im sure some of the ones I cull could have made nice dogs if I was willing to wait longer.  The way I see it a dog can have 15-20 pups in a year, so there are too many dogs, in the world to not do what I want them too.   
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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2011, 05:58:21 pm »

  I cull hard, at 5-7 months I show them a few hogs, and dont expect much, but they must be intrested from the start.  after 3-4 trips to a bay pen if they arent doing several things I really like, I part with them.   I dont hunt them much until close to a year old, depending on there maturity, each dog is different.   After a few trips to the woods, if they arent hunting and going to the pay I really sit back and look at what, they are doing and why.  Is it me, the hunting enviorment, are the skidish, inmature, lack of hogs they have been on, ect.   I really like a independant focused dog, not waiting another dog to find the pig.     Not to say my way is the way , or the best way, its just me.  Im sure some of the ones I cull could have made nice dogs if I was willing to wait longer.  The way I see it a dog can have 15-20 pups in a year, so there are too many dogs, in the world to not do what I want them too.   

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Dont beg em to bay. They do or they don't just about simple as that. Anything else and your spending to much on feed. Look for the naturals, its worth the wait without spending the cash to keep a cull. Good luck with em.  Cool
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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2011, 07:00:41 pm »

I would seperate the two littermates. Keep them away from each other and don't let them out together. I would give them a little break and try again.

I am not one to cull early... I am also not one to hunt or train pups together. I hope this helps, pups bring out pups in pups. Peewee, I know you have some good dogs, be patient!!!
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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2011, 08:28:29 pm »

  I cull hard, at 5-7 months I show them a few hogs, and dont expect much, but they must be intrested from the start.  after 3-4 trips to a bay pen if they arent doing several things I really like, I part with them.   I dont hunt them much until close to a year old, depending on there maturity, each dog is different.   After a few trips to the woods, if they arent hunting and going to the pay I really sit back and look at what, they are doing and why.  Is it me, the hunting enviorment, are the skidish, inmature, lack of hogs they have been on, ect.   I really like a independant focused dog, not waiting another dog to find the pig.     Not to say my way is the way , or the best way, its just me.  Im sure some of the ones I cull could have made nice dogs if I was willing to wait longer.  The way I see it a dog can have 15-20 pups in a year, so there are too many dogs, in the world to not do what I want them too.   

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 to bay. They do or they don't just about simple as that. Anything else and your spending to much on feed. Look for the naturals, its worth the wait without spending the cash to keep a cull. Good luck with em.  Cool

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If it takes 2 years to get one to hunt then you can expect the same from the offspring... The goal should be to breed and keep the naturals...
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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2011, 06:15:20 pm »

well from my experince is if a pup wont bay in the pen with the [small shoat] then let them out side of then pen and see what they will do but dont expect much the first couple times u bring the pups around a pig, my latest bloomer out of my litter is now by far the most mature pup of the bunch and is alredy running tracks and finding pigs, but to this day she still wont bay if u put her in the pen but in the woods shes almost a little to rough on a hog, shes allways been a strange dog, but everyone has there openions and the best way is to keep trying and take tips and notes from people u trust will lead u in the rite direction and just figure out what works for you, ive seen sum jam up dogs that dont seem to be amounting to any thing and then they come 2years and the switch flips and there jam up
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