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« on: January 01, 2008, 05:28:52 am »

The prices of live wild hogs is sky- rocketing .I know 3 different hunters and 5 different ranchers in my area alone that has started flooding the woods with traps. my good hunting buddy sold most his dogs and now he runs about 20 hog traps a morning.he's making 600.00 to 900.00 a week. I just lost one of my good places to hunt because the rancher is going to trap hisself.back in 1976 through 1979, the price of coon hides went to 30.00 each for a top hide , plus 5.00 for the meat. after about 1-1/2 yrs you could'nt find a coon nowhere. ranchers was spotlighting every night. people hunted all the creeks & rivers out and coons was rare for about 4 or 5 years.And I almost forgot our gouverment trappers are snarring trapping,  spotlighting &shooting, hunting with dogs and has a helicopter crew working all the time killing hog by the hundreds in each county. they are required to leave them lay. and then you have privet indaviduals that massacure hogs out of a hellicopter.people will do strange things for money...

WANDER WHAT THESE HIGH HOG PRICES ARE GONNA DO TO THE HOGS IN TIME???

And yes,, hogs can be trapped by the right trapper!!! trap smart,,, is just a excuse for THE HOGS ARE SMARTER THAN ME. Grin Grin
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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2008, 11:02:39 am »

when it is your lively hood u gotta do what u gotta do,MY family farms rice and the dogs just aren't enough .Traps have got hundreds dogs can't compete.
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« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2008, 11:19:33 am »

Yep, I think everybody should go ahead and get ahead of the market. Sell out your dogs now while the prices are still good and go by traps. It won't make economic sense to feed those dogs year round anymore. When the traps catch up all those hogs out there we won't have any need for dogs anyway.

Don't forget the urban legends about the trapper that were able to support themselves and two families by all the hogs he cauht and sold Grin
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« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2008, 11:52:39 am »

when it is your lively hood u gotta do what u gotta do,MY family farms rice and the dogs just aren't enough .Traps have got hundreds dogs can't compete.

WHEN TRAPS & dogs are used together the hogs can be controlled. 20 years ago there was hundreds & hundreds of hogs on HBR. GOOD DOGS COULD CATCH 5 TO 8 HOGS EVERY NIGHT.Traps & guns & dogs has been a facter for the last 10 years & i've been told that your lucky if you catch a hog there.many farmers held back and would'nt let people hunt until the hogs were unbearable and thats why dogs cant clean up thier hog problems in short peiords of time cause sow are having pigs faster than a man can kill them.I agree A MAN GATTA DO WHAT A MAN GATTA DO. Wink Grin
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« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2008, 12:49:43 pm »

Just talked to my trapping buddy, he caught 8 hogs this morning,5 over 100 lbs.

Price is 43 cents a lb & 20.00 bonus per head if over 100 lbs. that good money for wild hogs,,, I think. Trapping is a good way to get your foot in the door for running your dogs later.

101 lb hog = $63.43

200 lb hog =$106.00

250 lb hog = $127.50

300 lb hog = $149.00

Good way to make some bucks to buy a good hog dog, Kyrstle was talking bout selling out while the market is high dollar  i think!! Grin Grin Wink
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« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2008, 01:10:21 pm »

As far as getting results, running dogs is the most effective method... period. Now i'm not talking about hunting a place once every week or two, I mean three or more times a week. We have proven this many times to various landowners where we used traps and dogs. There was no comparision... unless the hogs were just smarter than us on the trapping! Grin

Constant dog pressure will run the hogs out of an area... but they will return when the pressure stops.

Are those prices good for dog caught hogs also?
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« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2008, 01:16:28 pm »

Mike ,,The man buys dog caught hogs if they are not in real bad shape. Ears dont matter.
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« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2008, 01:27:23 pm »

this past year was slow on trapping hogs but in the 2 years before the caugt hundreds i am not bragging , but we did and about 10 years back my ole man caught even more then that on a reagular basis ,and it didn't make a dint in the population of pigs .It is wierd but it is like they get trap smart for a while then they just don't care anymore,they trap left and right .i guess it is maybe just hunger.but since i was atually told to run the dogs and the owner didn't care we haven't been pushing traps as hard ,i know that for years many peaople back in the day hunted and didn't have perrmision .then the duck hunting club got big and that isn't a major factor anymore.But sometimes we have problems on other property but not a whole lot on HBR .However my uncle still traps and he does a numder on them ever year at HBR .But since we bring people out with dogs we cut back alot ,dogs are more fun.By the way Mike we need to plan another hunt .
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« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2008, 01:42:10 pm »

Just holler when y'all are ready. Grin

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« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2008, 09:59:03 pm »

Hippockets............Traps work good this time of year, and with deer feeders getting switched off in the masses as we speak, it will just get better till spring.  But thats not always the case.  You give me a river bottom during the warm season with acres and acres of standing corn, wheat, milo, or what ever crop, and you can bring in traps by the ship load being run by the best trapper around and he will not be able to compete in the ammount of hogs removed with a man that had just a handfull of average dogs.  Why?  Because a hog is not gonna go into a trap to eat some dried up corn that sat in a grain bin for 6 months, when he is standing in a fielld full of jucy corn of the cob and allready has a belly full.  I'll let some one else spend thier gas driving out to put the trap up, then back again to check a few times and back again to get the hogs.  On the other hand, take a property thats too small in size or too close to civilization to run dogs on and let the hogs get hungry like this time of year.  Then trapping is the best bet.  However, dogs are and will remain the most consistant, sucessfull, and time effecient method of removing hogs if it is feasable to do so on the property.  I hope everyone sells thier dogs and buys traps.  Then there would be less pressure on me to keep my spots from all these newcomers.  County trappers have been wasting money with those helicopters for the past 15 years or more.  I seen first hand the lack of sucess with that method and with the price of fuel as high as it is forget about that being a threat to hog numbers.  Buy the way, the county trapper I know took his counts of hogs killed from the ammount of time he pulled the trigger not the ammount of hogs that actually died.

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« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2008, 10:03:35 pm »

Yeah Waylon, i've heard that also from several people... those helicopter shooters say they kill way more than they do. Shocked
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« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2008, 10:47:09 pm »

TRAPS SCHMAPSS, I'm in this for the thrill of the squeal!!! lol   Wink Cheesy Cheesy
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« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2008, 10:13:30 am »

I hear ya sean... we dont hunt for the money... we turn everything we catch lose
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« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2008, 12:11:23 pm »

The price on hogs has skyrocketed because it is illegal to sell a live hog unless it has been tested by the TAHC unless Beltex or Southern WIld Game is the buyer.   You might as well be a drug dealer.
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« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2008, 04:20:03 pm »

Your right James, been selling a few to Sothern Wild game lately.  Just until I can bring the dogs in after deer season, then it is game on.  For the mean time it helps feed all my pot lickers.... Wink
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« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2008, 08:49:37 pm »

Thing about hogs also is a sow can have 2-3 litters a year in the wild, avg. litter size of 8 and 10 survive.......


Sorry had to put that last bit in, BUT I really think that your not going to trap a population of hogs out or run them completely away from an area with dogs. We have tried TRUST me and we ain't no where as successful as we want to be. Hogs are alot like coyotes, your never going to be rid of them but you can thin them from time to time.
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