stop. fence. police.

[seein_red]

Just wondering how to go about contacting land owners....I see a lot of places I'd like to hunt but have no clue how to contact the owners.

[dub]

All I have to say about any of this, is that ya'll have some well trained dogs if you can stand at a fence and call them off when they're looking at a hog.

If they are looking at a hog that is when I will go get the dogs. The barking may get a land owner to shoot them thinking they are barking at his animals. Plus if they are on the pig they could get hurt. I can call dogs off a track but looking at a pig is different. Just know if you jump that fence you are wrong. That is why I drop any knife and mule tape. Because I know I am wrong but I am choosing what I feel is less wrong. But if a land owner or the law shows up I will show respect and admit I am wrong. I don't have GPS but I start calling them when they get too close to a fence. I have been lucky and never had a problem by the grace of God.

[TexasLacy]

All I have to say about any of this, is that ya'll have some well trained dogs if you can stand at a fence and call them off when they're looking at a hog.

If they are looking at a hog that is when I will go get the dogs. The barking may get a land owner to shoot them thinking they are barking at his animals. Plus if they are on the pig they could get hurt. I can call dogs off a track but looking at a pig is different. Just know if you jump that fence you are wrong. That is why I drop any knife and mule tape. Because I know I am wrong but I am choosing what I feel is less wrong. But if a land owner or the law shows up I will show respect and admit I am wrong. I don't have GPS but I start calling them when they get too close to a fence. I have been lucky and never had a problem by the grace of God.

I understand why you drop the tape and knife, but when you get to the bay, if they are in fact bayed up.  How are you getting your dogs if you're alone.  I could see flipping and holding the hog until the dogs are off if you had help, but I can't think of a way to do it by yourself unless you kill or tie the hog.

Also, I believe trespassing carries a simple (cheap) fine if prosecuted.  Then again, you've got to be caught first, then prosecuted, then convicted.  Most people I know that own land and have been on that side of this situation are reasonable people, and wouldn't go through all of that if you're honest and forthcoming as to why you are on the land.

[MrsLouisianaHogDog]

This is the law in Louisiana maybe y'all get get a bill passed in Texas like it!


Read section 6 at the bottom it's all the exemptions to the trespass law!

http://www.legis.state.la.us/lss/lss.asp?doc=78584

Thank you! That's great, I'm going to print that and keep a copy in my truck also!

[RyanTBH]

First of all, the place that is a 1000 acres we have written permission to hunt from the CEO of a Children's home. The piece of land has a training course on it that is used for training Police officers and other law enforcement as well as multiple homes that the children stay in. They use the land that hogs frequent for recreational purposes. I would not want my daughter to walk up on some of the animals that we have caught out there. We have a deal with them to provide free removal, as well with other reputable references. I was "trespassing" because the "permission" WE had was false. This was my mistake for not meeting the landowner of the neighboring property. Even so, considering it is a children's home, and the course, why would he not let us remove the hogs when we have done no damage to his land? and already have written permission with the children's home??? It's a sore subject. Anyways, most, if not all of the properties we hunt we have talked to the surrounding landowners and have either written or verbal permission to hunt. And I say again, if you can call your dog off when he/she is looking at a hog in the woods I'd like to see video of it. 

[RyanTBH]

I couldn't agree anymore, but what about our dogs not knowing the difference??? If the dogs are out on a hog.... what then? The only thing I know to do is try to find the landowner, or call the GW to come help... if you can't do either of those, I get my dogs, and get off the property ASAP. It is also not legal to shoot a collared dog that isn't messing with livestock or anything else... As I understand it, that is a felony. There needs to be a law or something that states the rights of dog hunters. If you are not chasing game, and do not have any lethal wepons on you I don't think it should be against the law. This is too vague for me, and makes all dog hunters uneasy. I'm going to look into this a little further... We might just need to start a new bill.

X2 and if they ever ban it looks like me and my wife will have our bail bondsman on speed dial.

[dub]

All I have to say about any of this, is that ya'll have some well trained dogs if you can stand at a fence and call them off when they're looking at a hog.

If they are looking at a hog that is when I will go get the dogs. The barking may get a land owner to shoot them thinking they are barking at his animals. Plus if they are on the pig they could get hurt. I can call dogs off a track but looking at a pig is different. Just know if you jump that fence you are wrong. That is why I drop any knife and mule tape. Because I know I am wrong but I am choosing what I feel is less wrong. But if a land owner or the law shows up I will show respect and admit I am wrong. I don't have GPS but I start calling them when they get too close to a fence. I have been lucky and never had a problem by the grace of God.

I understand why you drop the tape and knife, but when you get to the bay, if they are in fact bayed up.  How are you getting your dogs if you're alone.  I could see flipping and holding the hog until the dogs are off if you had help, but I can't think of a way to do it by yourself unless you kill or tie the hog.

Also, I believe trespassing carries a simple (cheap) fine if prosecuted.  Then again, you've got to be caught first, then prosecuted, then convicted.  Most people I know that own land and have been on that side of this situation are reasonable people, and wouldn't go through all of that if you're honest and forthcoming as to why you are on the land.

You can keep some mule tape I drop the knife because it is a weapon. I only run one bay dog when I am alone because I don't want two bays. It still gets tricky getting the dog but I can do it. I am mostly saying that you do not want to look like you are hunting but mostly do not carry a weapon or instead of a fine you go to jail. I probably always have some mule tape in my pocket but when you see me you only see dog leads. I drop my knife and back pack which has the rope for dragging a hog. I guess I could tie the hog if I had to. Leave the catch dog too. Hog doggers get a bad wrap you need to not look like one of the outlaws.

I am saying you should avoid jumping any fence. Take extra precautions so you can improve our image. I don't have many spots and have permission to get dogs from all neighbors but one because it is a company and nobody will say yes or no. But they did say that nobody will ever be there at night and during the day I should let someone know.

[txhogsanddogs]

First of all, the place that is a 1000 acres we have written permission to hunt from the CEO of a Children's home. The piece of land has a training course on it that is used for training Police officers and other law enforcement as well as multiple homes that the children stay in. They use the land that hogs frequent for recreational purposes. I would not want my daughter to walk up on some of the animals that we have caught out there. We have a deal with them to provide free removal, as well with other reputable references. I was "trespassing" because the "permission" WE had was false. This was my mistake for not meeting the landowner of the neighboring property. Even so, considering it is a children's home, and the course, why would he not let us remove the hogs when we have done no damage to his land? and already have written permission with the children's home??? It's a sore subject. Anyways, most, if not all of the properties we hunt we have talked to the surrounding landowners and have either written or verbal permission to hunt. And I say again, if you can call your dog off when he/she is looking at a hog in the  woods I'd like to see video of it. 

 Ryan, I can call Superman off while baying a hog. To another response you mention about why would that guy not let you hunt!  It's because of being burned before I'm sure.  This sport is tuff and will only get worse with the people that are getting into the sport everyday. I hate it hate it hate it hate it but I deal with it everyday but luckly I've known my landowners and born and raise around here and have been doing it for some time so I don't have allot of issues crossing fences like most.

Outside of that ive been burned myself plenty with apme younger guys coming into this sport crossing ontoe and just plan turning loose on me. I put way touch into this sport for someone to hunt on me. I'll be te first to tell u I've worse than the land owner when it comes to someone back footing or trespassing on me.

[RyanTBH]

Naw, the old man has cattle on the other side of the ranch, and that's 1000+ acres away. He thinks it's inhumane to hunt with dogs anyways is what the GW said, and even the GW wouldn't give me his number. So we haven't hunted the property because of that reason. And Brian, I feel you on the back dooring thing... I do my best not to step on other peoples toes. I'm a pretty stand up guy, and I agree we need to be careful of what we do... I'm just saying I'm gona do everything in my power to get my dogs. JMO

[TexasLacy]

I'm with you Ryan.  I'm gonna get my dogs, whatever the cost.  But, I will exhaust every legal and neighborly way to do it before I just go get them.  Sometimes though, the situation dictates using other means.  And then, if caught, all I could do would be man up and accept the consequences.

Txhogsanddogs:  How did you train that kind of obedience into your superman dog?  Did you do it, or did you pay to have him trained? 

For me, there is no way in he11 I can call ANY of mine off a hog when they're face to face with it.

[txhogsanddogs]

I'm with you Ryan.  I'm gonna get my dogs, whatever the cost.  But, I will exhaust every legal and neighborly way to do it before I just go get them.  Sometimes though, the situation dictates using other means.  And then, if caught, all I could do would be man up and accept the consequences.

Txhogsanddogs:  How did you train that kind of obedience into your superman dog?  Did you do it, or did you pay to have him trained? 

For me, there is no way in he11 I can call ANY of mine off a hog when they're face to face with it.

I've had him since a pup so I would say I trained him. I just use his name like I'm talking to my own daughter. It takes some yelling but he will. Now if I make the hog break before he comes out I will have to start over at the next stopping point. I think what most people are trying to say is under most circumstances there is a way around getting onto someoe elses place wether it's hunting bigger places and laying off the aller places orbjust knowing the layout out of every property you hunt before you hunt it. 500 yards or whatever your dog might range start calling for them prior to gettin to the fence. NOT hunting the all the way to the fence just to see if they will strike or not. Guys I've been there specially when hog hunting is new. I've been in the woods for a while and it took a long time to were off but it today's time it's not worth the chance.