Need advice IMMEDIATLY

[TinyTexasCowgirl]

Really long story but I'm gonna try and keep it as short as possible.

Have my Futurity Filly with a trainer in Indiana. Found out today that another client went and removed her horse because she suspects "neglect". Trainer claims all the horses came down with tapeworm from a bad bale of hay and almost lost a couple of them ( his story, this was before my filly got there) I saw the skinny horses, one of which is his personal horse, and have known this trainer for years and trust him explictly. Other client is filing charges of criminal animal abuse and such as and so forth. My questions are

A) if, and it's a huge if, the neglect is proven to be intentional, will I be contacted about my filly before they seize her?
B) will a tapeworm pull hundreds of pounds off a horse in a matter of weeks/days like trainer is claiming? I've never dealt with it before.

[S_J_KENNELS]

A) you should be contacted along with the other owners of animals.

B) I would say no, HOWEVER with heavy riding and a sever case it is possible I would think.

Which one is it? Not my buddy is it? LOL

[kdbfh]

You will be contacted before they seize your filly and it sever cases tapeworms have caused such a dramatic drop in weight.


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[Noah]

Number one rule when sending a horse to a trainer... Go watch training sessions on a weekly basis... keeps everybody honest...  If the horse was tick fat for the last six mnths and just went down that fast, I'd give the trainer a chance to correct the problem... But I'd damn sure keep a close eye from that point on.

[bigo]

If all the horses in the barn are droping weight, then the the guy is having money trouble and is skimping on the feed. I would get mine out of there yesterday. I can tell from your post that your not dumb enough for the worm story.

[kdbfh]

I don't know where your located at or what disipline you are wanting your horse to learn but, I have a friend that just won the fort worth horse show that trains and breaks horses and is located in collinsville texas. The mostly deal with reining horses and they also run a qurintine (spelling?). They are currently riding( custom whiz kid, riminicin dunnit (spelling?) And a lot more top notch reining horses) they have been training horses for over 30 years.

[TinyTexasCowgirl]

Ok. Have been on the phone with several different vets all morning. I have been told that a tapeworm will drag a horse down very fast, but not as fast as the trainer is claiming, so that is still a little confusing, however I was also ensured that my filly would not be seized without my knowledge and I would be able to go and get her in the event.

I've known this guy for 5+ years, and have spent months and months of time in his barn, and never saw anything that would lead me to believe that he would intentionally mishandle or abuse a horse. I am going to give him the benefit of a doubt until I see physical evidence that says otherwise. I've seen the vet reports that show a massive case of tapeworm on the 3 horses in question, and have known all 3 of the horses to be in training with him for as long as I have known the trainer, so I have to question why he would just now start abusing them after 2 of the 3 are his own horses, not clients, and that he has owned one 8 years, and the other 15, as well as that there are 5 other horses in the barn that look perfect.

[T-Bob Parker]

I'll bet you got one busy body "horse lady" who doesn't like something she saw and is just stirring up trouble for him. You know how weird and lonely some "horse ladies" are. I don't know that that's the case obviously , but I can relate when it comes to dogs. When I lived in town I had neighbors try to get my dogs seized because they were "malnourished" I was cleared and the vet was willing to testify that my dogs were in fine working condition and didnt have worms, but it was annoying nonetheless.

[Tusk Hog]

  Tapeworms from a bale of hay???  A bad case will not happen over night either!!!!!!

[cward]

Yes the tape worm mites can hold into a bale of have but most come from wet or moist pastures . I would bet that the horses have not been tended to I would not except the tape worm excuse . I would check my horse out. I would not take anyone word I would have to see my on horse with my own eyes.  If the horses had a bad case of tape worms they would be colicing. I would bet if you tested my horses for tape worms they would come back positive as they have not been wormed in two years. They are all butterball fat.

[SwampHunter]

i work for animal control an had a lady call  everyday for more than a week telling me i had to go out to these stables because the horses in the feild didnt look happy , i was like well how does a happy horse look an she would call over an over an there was nothing wrong with the horses they were just in feild standing an stuff  lol i guess my horses anit happy either lol

if the animal control or whatever up there is messing with him an gonna is going to take them they are goin to have pleanty of reason to not just because  they were a lil skinny

[Houndhogging]

I have been around horse all my life. (1) tape worms are very bad for any animal and only cured with only a few dewormers . My question knowing from riding outside horses is how long has she been there . Long enough to worm?? Probably ...!! did she miss a worming (2) was she fat when she got there? A change in diet and several hours riding will drop weight off a horse as quick as anything .. Just my opinion but would be askin lots of questions from here on out ..  .. Apparently u trust this man or he wouldn't have your horse. And who's to say the horse isn't sick ( the one that is " skinny" ) . A thin young ( in shape) horse is way better than a  fat horse standing in the pasture that knows nothing.

[Noah]

A thin young ( in shape) horse is way better than a  fat horse standing in the pasture that knows nothing.

x2...

... back when I was riding 10-15 a day, it was nothing to pull a few hundred pounds off a colt in a short period of time... certain horses require extreme work loads to "get beyond" certain issues... no matter how much you feed them.

Communication with your trainer and regular "shows of progress" will help prevent things from getting out of control...