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earlisbubba
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« on: August 31, 2012, 01:54:34 pm » |
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First off, I understand the necessity of establishing a standard for each breed of dogs. That being said I have wondered why certain traits are included in the standards of certain breeds. Things that have no impact on a dogs ability to perform the job it was created to do, or things that actually cause serious health issues. Mainly I'm thinking of white coated dogs like the dogo. So who's to say a breed standard couldn't be changed in light of modern knowledge that the deafness so often seen in solid white dogs is caused by the lack of pigment in the inner ear?
A black or brindle dogo? It would work for me!
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Easttex91
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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2012, 02:40:54 pm » |
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If you read breed histories you'll see changes in many breeds but they're small gradual changes changing the color of the dogo would be drastic
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Reuben
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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2012, 02:58:17 pm » |
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the akc show has taken many a working/hunting dog breed and ruined it for what it was originally bred for...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
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earlisbubba
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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2012, 04:36:28 pm » |
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It just seems to me like the originator of each breed set out to create the best dogs possible for the job they intended for them to do. If it was later discovered that certain traits weren't beneficial or in fact were an obvious fault, seems like any logical person would stop breeding that way.
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Easttex91
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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2012, 05:47:32 pm » |
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Yes but to change something deviates from current breed standard and creates an undesirable dog for people who are not looking for function. Shows have ruined function in a lot of breeds of dogs. I hope cur dogs don't ever become show dogs (I can't imagine that happening any time soon.)
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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2012, 07:43:28 pm » |
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I'm thinking that things like coat color etc had more to do with instant recognition of the breed. No such thing as a brindle lab,white jagd,etc.Throwback colors often are an indication of other less visible traits. Whether they r desirable or not. I know on the jagds the hair trait was for turning away fangs,thorns etc. But it's pretty broad as far as type of coat. The size and conformation standard are pretty liberal. But the have very stringent performance standards for approved breedings. Gun shyness alone for example will exclude them from breeding preference.
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Reuben
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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2012, 08:00:40 pm » |
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example of a hunting type English Setter...if you notice the dog is muscular and strong looking with shorter hair than an AKC type show dog... this dog has a wider head for brain capacity and the rear and loin are wider and stronger built for powerful driving action when moving...also wider ribs for lung capacity and broader front for strength and stability... http://youtu.be/aA4CtR0vud0below you can see the akc show english setters in action...almost a different breed from the hunting type... so which ones would your prefer if you were looking for a hunting type setter??? http://youtu.be/2rGc6l-ZZcshttp://youtu.be/2rGc6l-ZZcs |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
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