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« on: September 19, 2012, 11:22:58 pm » |
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What i want to know is at what point do you call a line of dogs yours?
You had to get them from some one to start with
Is it the second generation?
3-4th
When do they go from being someone elses blood to being yours?
Not just on the papers but on your line?
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KevinN
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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2012, 11:47:06 pm » |
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Honestly I think you give credit where it's due no matter how long you been breeding them. I.E. "I been breeding this line for 8 years but it started with so
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halfbreed
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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2012, 12:20:08 am » |
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oh about ten generations that should take you no less than 20 years if done rite lol because all the dogs should be at least two years old and proven before breeding . and thats if the line will hold up to it without any outcrossings along the way . and you've got them all hunting, and looking true to the line . but then again it can be done in a couple of breedings with the right kinda advertisement and bragging lol
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BA-IV
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2012, 12:55:15 am » |
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You know it's your line when other people refer to em as your dogs, not yourself and not your buddies!
It sure don't happen overnight.
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bigo
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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2012, 09:03:25 am » |
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When your selections start having an impact on the dogs your breeding, good or bad, then its yours. I would say three generations.
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The older I get, the better I was.
If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principle difference between a dog and a man.
Mark Twain
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rdjustham
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2012, 10:15:24 am » |
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Ive got a litter on the ground off of dogs on my yard. The parents aint from my breeding but i planned these two dogs to be the foundation for my breeding. Now pups off the next breeding will bee off my yard but still from x and y dogs. ill let you know in five or six years if they are my dogs... lol
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magnuml
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2012, 10:25:12 am » |
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oh about ten generations that should take you no less than 20 years if done rite lol because all the dogs should be at least two years old and proven before breeding . and thats if the line will hold up to it without any outcrossings along the way . and you've got them all hunting, and looking true to the line . but then again it can be done in a couple of breedings with the right kinda advertisement and bragging lol
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Reuben
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2012, 06:52:30 pm » |
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When your selections start having an impact on the dogs your breeding, good or bad, then its yours. I would say three generations.
x2...but starting with a good line of dogs really helps...and give credit where it is due...inbreed at the beginning and select right to purify the line...meaning culling out the bad traits...then linebreed off of the good dogs...your dogs will only be as good as you select... |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
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buddylee
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« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2012, 11:57:28 am » |
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I'm trying to breed up my own "line" or family of dogs. I would call them my own dogs after a generation cause I'm using dogs from different people and breeding dogs to my specifications. Some people will disagree but I don't care. I don't plan on advertising them or bragging about them either.
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halfbreed
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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2012, 12:26:26 pm » |
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hell buddy after one generation they is just a cross off of so and so's dogs that would be just like crossing a walker to a blue tick first generation is just a walker and a blue tick cross . now after a few efforts at line breeding those pups for several generations you start getting a LINE of dogs to start inbreeding with to start to get uniformaty and then a LINE starts to develope . i'm sorry just takes several years to do it right and to truely be able to call it a LINE of dogs . but just my opinions on the matter if it just took one generation or even three [ sorry boys lol ] there would be more lines of dogs than the stars in the sky .
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buddylee
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« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2012, 01:06:15 pm » |
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Your own line yes but he also asked about ur own dogs. Maybe I should have been more specific with my answer. A line of dogs would be 2 or 3 generations at least but my own dogs after one generation cause I'm breeding for a different kind of dog with a long term goal in mind.
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bigo
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« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2012, 02:00:50 pm » |
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You can't start a new breed of dog in three generations, that would take many years and generations to do. If three people got dogs from the same man then bred them separate for three generations using their likes and dislikes in the selection process, I guarantee you they each would be different and the guy you got them from won't claim them as his anymore. So, who's line of that particular breed is it.
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The older I get, the better I was.
If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principle difference between a dog and a man.
Mark Twain
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buddylee
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« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2012, 03:06:41 pm » |
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A new breed of dogs is different than a new line of dogs. In 3 or 4 generations if done right u have a good shot of breeding out undesirable traits. In one breeding u can change the type of dog whether it's good or bad.
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