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« on: October 15, 2012, 09:54:16 pm » |
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i just built 8 new kennels and got to thinking about a water system. i got to thinking about running a pipe from the water faucet across the top of the kennels with a tee looking down in each kennel with a pipe running to the water bowls in each kennel. but was wondering would i have enough water pressure to go to the end of the kennels ,each kennel is 4ft wide. i didnt want to put it up and it not work. so i figured i would ask if anyone on here had tried this before or had something of the same setup? thanks
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Bo Pugh
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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2012, 09:56:51 pm » |
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i meant to put this in the general discussion, i guess i clicked on the wrong box sorry.
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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2012, 09:58:53 pm » |
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I think with a small PVC pipe to increase the pressure you would be fine been thinking on it for awhile also
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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2012, 11:12:32 pm » |
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depemding on the size of pipe running to your faucet [ hose bib ] and how far from the main feed , give me some info and i can tell ya anything you need to know . i did commercial plumbing for many years . but regarless you should have plenty of water pressure to do what you're thinking . i would suggest yousing 1/2'' iron pipe if you can afford it and putting you a bleeder on both ends to drain it when it's going to freeze .
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Reuben
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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2012, 03:59:24 am » |
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I used a sharp shooter shovel and ran the piping under ground using 3/4 pvc...I also teed off of it and ran it to 3 kennels and I have liksit auto waterers for each kennel as well as a water faucet to each kennel with a water hose so that I can wash the kennels daily.
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2012, 06:16:38 am » |
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Do you have to worry about dogs chewing on PVC?
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Reuben
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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2012, 07:49:10 am » |
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Do you have to worry about dogs chewing on PVC?
I have the pvc coming up from under ground out side the kennel and then it tees in at about 33 inches or so. first time around I teed in with galvanized fittings but didn't this time and no the dogs have not messed with the PVC... also a ditch witch would be nice to run the line but a sharp shooter is quick and easy when done while the ground is not dry...I live in SE Texas so it doesn't get too cold here so I buried the line about 12 inches or so... |
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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2012, 09:16:23 am » |
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http://www.easttexashogdoggers.com/forum/index.php?topic=7028.60On page 4 of this thread, you can see how I did mine...much like you are wanting to do. As far as pressure, what you need to do is this...right off the faucet make a T, then run your pipe all the way around your kennels and back to the T. In other words you make a complete loop off your faucet so the pressure is pretty equal all the way around. When I first built mine, I used all PVC, but with time the dogs have chewed and I have changed the drops in the kennels to galvanized pipe from about 5' off the ground to the buckets. At the bottom of each kennel drop put a cap on the pipe and drill a small hole in the cap...maybe like a #50 bit or so. Might take a couple minutes to fill all the buckets, but you should have good pressure all the way around like that. I have drops into 13 pens and have no problems. All my buckets fill at almost exactly the same rate. Also having your main loop at the top of you kennels allows all the water to drain down once the faucet / valve or whatever controls it is turned off so your pipe can't freeze in cold weather.
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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2012, 04:39:51 pm » |
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Hey Bo it sounds like your shooting for the same set up I have. I have a ten run dog kennel with each run being four foot wide. I ran 1/2 inch PVC on top and have a T going down every other run. Then I bought some lixit faucet waterers for dogs. It works great you dont have to worry about cleaning nasty bowls. The dogs havent chewed on the PVC at all but I did put insulation on them and they like chewing on that. This will be my first winter with this system so I will probably drain the pipes and start hand watering during the freezing weather. Hope this helps, I will try to take some pictures and give you a better idea how its set up. I recommend putting insulation on the top run because if you dont the water gets pretty hot in the summer, the dogs figure out pretty quick how the lixits work, just make sure you flush the system when you first install it because the water will taste like PVC glue  I found that out when my wife told me to try it out and it was nasty. ha ha |
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Reuben
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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2012, 07:02:09 pm » |
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under ground is best so the water won't freeze in the winter and it won't get hot in the summer...running 3/4 is always better because if you decide to put water hoses at different locations throughout the kennels then there will be less pressure drop on the line and you will have plenty of water pressure...3/4 all the way...
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2012, 08:05:14 pm » |
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Yes sir Rueben is right about having the pipe underground, i would have done it that way but i already had concrete poured
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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2012, 08:32:42 pm » |
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i used pex pipe and manifolds and ball valve whole project less than 100dollars works great
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Bo Pugh
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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2012, 08:40:31 pm » |
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thanks everyone for the tips and pointers
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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2012, 05:36:22 pm » |
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hose bibs are usually 1/2'' pipes size, normal working pressure in a house should be 40-60 lbs. you will lose about 3 lbs per 10' going vertical. you shouldn't have a problem with the pressure. run it underground so your lines don't freeze minimum 12''. pvc should work fine depends on the dog if hes gonna chew it or not. if anything run the underground in pvc and if you have any doubts put the pipe thats coming into the kennel in galv or copper. also place a valve in the main line going to the kennel... im a plumber...
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Reuben
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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2012, 07:06:29 pm » |
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the reason I say 3/4 inch is because if you decide to set up water hoses the 3/3 inch gives plenty of pressure with a 3/4 inch garden hose...making a long run with 1/2 inch will be enough if you are only filling water buckets or just using liksit watering devices for all the kennels...
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Bo Pugh
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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2012, 07:38:45 pm » |
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i wont be able to run it underground because their on a cement slab. and from the spicket i have now its about 10 foot from the first kennel and i guess about a 4 foot rise to the top of the kennels where i will have to run my water header. and about 35 foot to the end. i have some jags so im sure they will be swinging off the pipe and demolish and kind of insulation the first day haha. but i think if i run it where it will stay drained in the water bowls and not stay in the pipe it should be good from freezing, i will probably end up putting a cap on the line with a small hole drilled to keep pressure all way around. i would like to do the lixit for dogs but it freezes here in the winter and probably stay froze up. but i got several good ideas in my head now from everyone and going to start on it friday and just do some adjusting according to the dog behavior. thanks
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