yelladog0300
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« on: December 27, 2012, 11:50:01 am » |
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okay guys i have 3 males and one gyp im wanting to work today.. the males are from 11months to 17 months old .. the gyp turned 6 months on christmas day.. me and a buddy caught 2 hogs christmas eve both boars around the 150 range .. i got the smaller one about 140 prolly has 1/2 in teeth.. what would do about training these dogs today ? drag it ? let it go ? ect.... doesnt know if it matters but there is still heavy snow on the ground where im at and its not going all away today nor tommorow unless it rains .. so whats yalls info ?
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Kid7
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« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2012, 11:53:44 am » |
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If your already catching hogs with them I would just keep putting them in the woods. Feed em hog tracks they'll figure it out
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KevinN
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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2012, 11:54:52 am » |
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What kind of experience do the dogs have? How many hogs of what size have they seen?
You could probably do the drag rope with the 2X4 on the end and be ok.
Biggest concern of mine would be getting a pup that has little experience with hogs wrecked the first time out.
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« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2012, 12:07:51 pm » |
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If your already catching hogs with them I would just keep putting them in the woods. Feed em hog tracks they'll figure it out
x2 when i turn one loose to work my dogs i dont tie it or anything ... if its a boar i'll barr it sometimes an then give him a head start but i just work mine hard
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yelladog0300
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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2012, 12:24:47 pm » |
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the one male that is 17 months... hasnt struck one by his self but has been on multiple hogs including the two we caught on christmas eve.. next male is 12months never struck by himself.. been on about 7 in the woods including the 2 on eve. next male is 11 months .. been on 5 in the woods. the gyp has jus seen a hog on the oputside of the pen . im leaning more torward the gyp cause u can jus tell its natural in her .. she came outta a good line of proven dogs
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KevinN
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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2012, 12:28:38 pm » |
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Heck, they sound like they are coming along good!
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yelladog0300
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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2012, 12:30:50 pm » |
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What kind of experience do the dogs have? How many hogs of what size have they seen?
You could probably do the drag rope with the 2X4 on the end and be ok.
Biggest concern of mine would be getting a pup that has little experience with hogs wrecked the first time out.
kevin the biggest hog the males have been on was a boar about 230 with 2in cutters... jus so happen to be the first time i took out the 11 and 12 mo pups lol no harm was done
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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2012, 12:31:16 pm » |
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well if you just want to have some fun turn a hog loose , give it a good 30 minute head start and go re-catch it . and if you just want to have fun , leave them hogs in the pen and go and catch some diiferant ones lol . sounds like the young dogs are ready to hunt , not much training left to do . once my dogs have run with the big dogs i prefer to just hunt em from then on out .
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yelladog0300
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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2012, 12:38:35 pm » |
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well if you just want to have some fun turn a hog loose , give it a good 30 minute head start and go re-catch it . and if you just want to have fun , leave them hogs in the pen and go and catch some diiferant ones lol . sounds like the young dogs are ready to hunt , not much training left to do . once my dogs have run with the big dogs i prefer to just hunt em from then on out .
well looks like im gunna turn that sucker loose this evening lol if bad comes to worse .. and they dont find it .. might have to see how good MY tracking skills are in the snow
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« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2012, 12:55:42 pm » |
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here is what i would do with those dogs. take this hog you have down in the creek bottoms or were ever you got. (leave the dogs at home) drag him thru the brush a good ways then put him in a cage hide in the brush. take those young dogs down and turn em out , startem toward the trail but stay behind them and let them find the trail to the hog. you can evaluate your dogs this way and see who wants to be up front.
now you still have a hog and you can do it again. turn out one dog this time see what they can do.
i leave the dogs at home or some where they cant watch you hide the hog..
this is how i start my pups at about 4 or 5 months old.
the hog you have is gona run off and leave your pups most likley if you turn him loose.
once your pups hit the ground looking for a hog then take him to a fresh spot and turn him loose.
i will also tie a hog off in the brush and ride your dogs past him down wind see if they will wind from the atv
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yelladog0300
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« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2012, 01:43:55 pm » |
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here is what i would do with those dogs. take this hog you have down in the creek bottoms or were ever you got. (leave the dogs at home) drag him thru the brush a good ways then put him in a cage hide in the brush. take those young dogs down and turn em out , startem toward the trail but stay behind them and let them find the trail to the hog. you can evaluate your dogs this way and see who wants to be up front.
now you still have a hog and you can do it again. turn out one dog this time see what they can do.
i leave the dogs at home or some where they cant watch you hide the hog..
this is how i start my pups at about 4 or 5 months old.
the hog you have is gona run off and leave your pups most likley if you turn him loose.
once your pups hit the ground looking for a hog then take him to a fresh spot and turn him loose.
i will also tie a hog off in the brush and ride your dogs past him down wind see if they will wind from the atv
tHANKS CRAIG
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« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2012, 02:25:01 pm » |
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here is what i would do with those dogs. take this hog you have down in the creek bottoms or were ever you got. (leave the dogs at home) drag him thru the brush a good ways then put him in a cage hide in the brush. take those young dogs down and turn em out , startem toward the trail but stay behind them and let them find the trail to the hog. you can evaluate your dogs this way and see who wants to be up front.
now you still have a hog and you can do it again. turn out one dog this time see what they can do.
i leave the dogs at home or some where they cant watch you hide the hog..
this is how i start my pups at about 4 or 5 months old.
the hog you have is gona run off and leave your pups most likley if you turn him loose.
once your pups hit the ground looking for a hog then take him to a fresh spot and turn him loose.
i will also tie a hog off in the brush and ride your dogs past him down wind see if they will wind from the atv
whos to say his dogs wont be tracking his scent all the way to the hog?
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yelladog0300
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« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2012, 02:33:56 pm » |
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here is what i would do with those dogs. take this hog you have down in the creek bottoms or were ever you got. (leave the dogs at home) drag him thru the brush a good ways then put him in a cage hide in the brush. take those young dogs down and turn em out , startem toward the trail but stay behind them and let them find the trail to the hog. you can evaluate your dogs this way and see who wants to be up front.
now you still have a hog and you can do it again. turn out one dog this time see what they can do.
i leave the dogs at home or some where they cant watch you hide the hog..
this is how i start my pups at about 4 or 5 months old.
the hog you have is gona run off and leave your pups most likley if you turn him loose.
once your pups hit the ground looking for a hog then take him to a fresh spot and turn him loose.
i will also tie a hog off in the brush and ride your dogs past him down wind see if they will wind from the atv
whos to say his dogs wont be tracking his scent all the way to the hog? i have thoughht about that also..??
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Miller Lite
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« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2012, 02:43:10 pm » |
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i'd just spray it down with a water hose an kick it loose an fresh pack the sheeee out of it let them bay for a while in the woods if you look through ym videos i have some of my puppies at like 5 months old on a hog that we got wet an turned loose they did fine
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Easttex91
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« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2012, 07:11:17 pm » |
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Drag the hog behind you dragging him over your steps and hide him then make a loop back to your truck or house or whatever to where you don't cross your drag trail
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craig
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« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2012, 08:58:29 pm » |
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Welcome to the world of Internet hog hunting. Everyone questions everything Nothing is full proof. You have to be smart enough to figure some things out on your own
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yelladog0300
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« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2012, 08:01:20 am » |
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Welcome to the world of Internet hog hunting. Everyone questions everything Nothing is full proof. You have to be smart enough to figure some things out on your own
yea but im always up for some learning and new ideas... i started out by tieing a t-post to his leg and letting him run off .. he only made it 10 yards in the woods lol so i said eff it and jus cut it loose , waited about 30 min then went to my other pasture to get my dogs . came back and unloaded..my oldest and youngest dogs shot out the other two jus doing what an male cur dog would do (chit and piss) lol it took em about 10 min to find it but from where i let it out that sucker ran 700 yards and was in some THICK stuff .. in all it was a good lil deal. i was a happy dude
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craig
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« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2012, 08:53:08 am » |
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good deal, glad it worked out for you...
thats what this site is all about , sharing ideas and helping new people learn. i just get tired of people not wanting to help . they just want to pick at what someone else has said..
i have been a member here since day one , and i have trained plenty of dogs from wolf hounds ,coon dogs and hog dogs and im always glad to help out a new guy..
happy hunting
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yelladog0300
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« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2012, 09:46:44 am » |
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good deal, glad it worked out for you... thats what this site is all about , sharing ideas and helping new people learn. i just get tired of people not wanting to help . they just want to pick at what someone else has said.. i have been a member here since day one , and i have trained plenty of dogs from wolf hounds ,coon dogs and hog dogs and im always glad to help out a new guy.. happy hunting Thanks you too ! and yea man from what i have read on here in the little time of me being a member... its dang near like all the threads nearly turn in to a argument over whos opinion or idea is better .. i take in all the edvice i get on her its jus some advice sounds better then others lol
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« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2012, 08:17:20 pm » |
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Welcome to the world of Internet hog hunting. Everyone questions everything Nothing is full proof. You have to be smart enough to figure some things out on your own
Rule #1 you have to be smarter than the dog.
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