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« on: May 19, 2013, 09:53:14 pm » |
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I can't remember if someone posted this here already, but I came across this news story.... http://5newsonline.com/2013/02/25/shooter-arrested-in-hunting-dogs-deaths/ and was pretty 'entertained' to say the least reading the comments posted below the story. I understand that the dogs wound up on this man's private property, but come on....they had day-glo ID collars on, along with GPS collars. It should have been very apparent to this guy that these were someone's dogs, not some wild feral strays. From the story, they weren't posing a threat to any livestock or anything.... All I know is I'd feel very sorry for anyone who dared shoot or shoot at any of my dogs when they're out working. Of course we all try to avoid these situations but when the dogs range out, or are on top of game, this can happen. That's why any new area we run, we make it a point to stop by and speak to or leave a note to any surrounding properties informing them that we hunt that area time to time and that we run dogs, that are not a threat. Such a shame about the two unfortunate dogs in the above story.  |
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~Krystale of the Southern Comfort Combine~ www.southerncomfortcombine.webs.com*Proud member of the Mississippi Hunting Dog Association* ADBA Safe Dog Program Evaluator and Trainer |
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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2013, 10:30:47 pm » |
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This story is ongoing. I read an account from one of the people involved that said this isn't over. It was a bad deal and the judge should have called time out because they knew the dogs were getting close to the line. This is one case tho that paints the SSS crowd in a very bad light and may end up helping dog hunters in the future.
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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2013, 10:35:42 pm » |
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There are some stupid comments. One defender said hunting with dogs goes back hundreds of years. That is wrong. It goes back to the earliest man. Dogs and man had a relationship that benefited both of them. I guess some people just don't need dogs any more and think we should just kill all the dogs that still want to hunt and serve humans. That is how we repay those that serve us?
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"...A man who has nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance at being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself..." John Stuart Mill
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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2013, 10:40:13 pm » |
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Yea that was a bad deal. I have met larry a few times at hunts. He said that the guy that shot them was proud of himself. He admitted to them that the dogs werent doing anything but treeing. Then when the cops showed up he changed his story and said they were being aggressive.
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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2013, 11:21:07 pm » |
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They shot some up north in a ukc hunt and the dog was leashed at the guys side
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cdc505
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« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2013, 06:41:47 am » |
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Game Warden here in Texas told me it's a fed offense to shoot a marked hunting dog ( one with obvious tracking collars on) and that was after he told the deer hunter that called him and said he was going to shoot my dogs if they came back across his lease.
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Shotgun wg
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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2013, 06:56:14 am » |
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They shot some up north in a ukc hunt and the dog was leashed at the guys side
Don't know about a ukc hunt but a few months before this happend a guy was hunting on a NWR and his dog trees on private property adjoining it. One guy left everything but a leash and went to get the dog. When he got the dog the property owner showed up drunk and started raising Cain. Said he would shoot the dog. They argued and the property owner shot the guys dog on leash with the owner holding it with a rifle. This was in AR. |
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cantexduck
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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2013, 07:03:44 am » |
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Felony in Texas to shoot a domestic animal unless you are protecting your person or property. Property is livestock , pets , exotic animal and feral hogs.
Sad deal.
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There's a coon, nevermind, thats Buster.
"So I pawned my lacy off to my girlfriend. That should teach her to meet men off match.com"
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cdc505
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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2013, 08:31:59 am » |
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Feral hogs are not property after speaking with the government trapper and inspector for the animal health commission. On the other hand it is against the law to trespass and also against the law to shoot a hunting dog that is not posing a threat if they are treeing coons, baying hogs, hunting birds, etc that is not posing a threat doesn't matter where they are.
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cantexduck
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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2013, 09:55:59 am » |
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Two years ago the state made hogs property of the owner of land they are on. The law makes no sense to me.
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There's a coon, nevermind, thats Buster.
"So I pawned my lacy off to my girlfriend. That should teach her to meet men off match.com"
Rich.
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TChunter
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One of the places we hunt is next to public land...I get real nervous when our dogs are out and all the sudden I hear shots but no dogs...I get nervous everytime.
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cantexduck
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Feral hogs are not a game or non-game species in Texas. Instead, feral hogs are considered exotic livestock as described in Texas Parks and Wildlife Code Section 1.101(4) and Texas Agriculture Code 161.001(a) [4]. Because of this distinction, they fall under the ownership of the landowner and not the citizens of the state according to the Texas Agriculture Code Section 161.002.
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There's a coon, nevermind, thats Buster.
"So I pawned my lacy off to my girlfriend. That should teach her to meet men off match.com"
Rich.
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I see what your saying but the only way that could be enforced is if the hogs were in captivity which opens another can of worms in which if they were in captivity your holding pens would have to be inspected or if they got on the road and a car hit one they could sue you.
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No. In captivity they become livestock. Out of captivity they are exotic livestock. There is a difference.
In example. You can't let a bulldog catch a hog in a pen. But you can let him in the woods. I thought the paragraph I posted was pretty cut and dry . Was it not ?
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There's a coon, nevermind, thats Buster.
"So I pawned my lacy off to my girlfriend. That should teach her to meet men off match.com"
Rich.
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I see what your saying but the only way that could be enforced is if the hogs were in captivity which opens another can of worms in which if they were in captivity your holding pens would have to be inspected or if they got on the road and a car hit one they could sue you.
If the pig gets on the road and gets ran over it would no longer be on a land owners properties making it no ones hog until it is back on private property |
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I hear thunder on the horizon!
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"stupids in the water these days, they're gonna drink it anyway." - Chris Knight
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I see what your saying but the only way that could be enforced is if the hogs were in captivity which opens another can of worms in which if they were in captivity your holding pens would have to be inspected or if they got on the road and a car hit one they could sue you.
If the pig gets on the road and gets ran over it would no longer be on a land owners properties making it no ones hog until it is back on private property And THAT is why the state crafted this sneaky little peice of legislation. Farmers and ranchers several years back decided to join forces and attempt to hold the states feet to the fire for the damages to their crops, drainage, roads and fences. The state said I'm your huckleberry and just flipped the script on em. Damn politicians. |
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cdc505
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Hey it's always something ain't it. I gotta get ready for this storm she's coming thru Jonesboro right now 70 mph wind, tennis ball sized hail, and tornado warning.
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I see what your saying but the only way that could be enforced is if the hogs were in captivity which opens another can of worms in which if they were in captivity your holding pens would have to be inspected or if they got on the road and a car hit one they could sue you.
If the pig gets on the road and gets ran over it would no longer be on a land owners properties making it no ones hog until it is back on private property And THAT is why the state crafted this sneaky little peice of legislation. Farmers and ranchers several years back decided to join forces and attempt to hold the states feet to the fire for the damages to their crops, drainage, roads and fences. The state said I'm your huckleberry and just flipped the script on em. Damn politicians. fliped tha script.....lmao. so what we need is a rich,well spoken, educated, deep rooted, hog dogger that has the time to win a debate with the policy makers....good luck from me.....who else. tapatalk |
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