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« on: January 19, 2014, 07:49:40 pm »

Ok just something I've been thinking about after talkin to many guys on breeding.... So let's say I have a short range gyp and breed her to a long range male will the pups be med range?? Or if my gyp isn't rough and I breed her to a rough dog will that make the pups rougher???
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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2014, 08:21:25 pm »

I would imagine that you will more than likely get pups across the board, some taking moms traits and some taking dads and some falling in between. Some disagree but I also feel that range can be somewhat munipulated as a pup progresses, if you run a young dog with dogs that range out I believe that if the pup has the want to he will at least attempt to hang with the other dogs on the ground, now obviously a younger pup cant hang with seasoned dogs early on but if you continue to run that pup with seasoned dogs i believe that it will tend to follow the "monkey see monkey do" mindset. Obviously you will have pups the dont read the script and do their own thing independantly which is not a bad thing either in my opinion. Thats my take on the subject, for what its worth.
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2014, 09:29:58 pm »

I believe it is mainly genetics...I also believe that breeding short range to long range that it will produce both...including no hunt to in the mid range...

but like Justin said...we can help the pup by how we train...when the young dogs are roading pay attention to them...if they act like there is a pig stop and encourage them to take the track or to look...once they work the track and give it up then move on...if the pup is looking then you encourage them by going in and helping them look...if they strike a pig and follow they will learn that you will go to them...if you are just moving along kind of fast then the pups will learn to work hotter tracks because they are more worried about keeping up with you than just hunting...if you let them work all tracks while yo wait then they will learn to take colder tracks as well...when you wait on the pup they will work further out...I believe it is genetics but we can do all we can to bring out the best in a dog...

take the pups to the woods and turn them out and see which one rolls out and is making a round...after you are sure that pup is leading then it is time to leave that one at home and see if another pup will step up on the next couple times out...this is one of the things I do when selecting pups...I look for natural ability...it sure is nice when you first take a pup to the woods and he makes a lap and hits the slough like he was born knowing to do it...that there is a big plus in his/her favor...

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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2014, 09:49:01 pm »

Always assume you will end up with pups that are only equal at best to the lesser of the two dogs.
This should encourage you to never breed a dog that you aren't already satisfied with to begin with, and it is always a good practice to breed up. Once you have an animal that you are happy to hual, breed it to a dog that makes you plum jealous. That way if you do end up producing dogs better than the weakest link, you'll be happy using them.
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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2014, 05:49:37 am »

Always assume you will end up with pups that are only equal at best to the lesser of the two dogs.
This should encourage you to never breed a dog that you aren't already satisfied with to begin with, and it is always a good practice to breed up. Once you have an animal that you are happy to hual, breed it to a dog that makes you plum jealous. That way if you do end up producing dogs better than the weakest link, you'll be happy using them.

Solid advice Terry.
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