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« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2014, 11:39:41 pm »

Riddle me this?

What color is the meat?   Never sawed into one personally.  But heard some wild rumors.
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« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2014, 06:45:56 am »

Riddle me this?

What color is the meat?   Never sawed into one personally.  But heard some wild rumors.

Some of the meat is red, not as red as deer meat, but the consistency of deer meat. Some of it is translucent (some say white),
like frog legs, real fine meat  and some is a mixture of the 2, about the look of chicken. The front and hind quarters are red meat
transitioning into the clear meat.   We don't keep any under 40 lbs because they are all head and shell and they yield little meat,
just seems a waste for the little meat you get.  Now the bigger ones, I remember the one in the top pic was 110 lbs,  He yielded
65 lbs, of meat (on the bone) after we cleaned him. Every thing is done with him on his back. After bottom shell is off everything
is right there. Skin and cut each leg quarter out then the tail then the neck. A lot of meat in his neck running into his head.
Now everything is separated from the shell. Cut the feet off at the joints then you have to skin the hide off each piece like a deer.
You can't pull the hide from the meat , it has to be skinned. You can clean a big logger head pretty quick.

They are very simple to clean. If you look at the pics you see his bottom shell connects to the top by just a little piece on both sides.
You cut that with a hatchet then skin the bottom shell off, takes about a minute. 

I mainly catch them on lines tied to a tree along an old natural bayou in the swamp. I bait a hook with a piece of carp and gently push
it into the sediment a few inches...  I also was taught by my grandfather how to pole them out of their caves with a hook pole during
the cold winter months when they are hibernating. They dig holes in the bank and they pile on top of one another to hibernate.

If you notice on the pic of Myles shell, there are 3 rows of "spurs" on his back. if you catch a large one and his spurs are tall and pointed,
there are probably not many turtles in the area. If you catch one that his spurs are worn down and rounded off, there is a good population. If you catch one that the rows of spurs are slap worn down , then you have a lot of logger heads in the area.  When they
are hibernating they pile on top of one another and that's what wears them spurs down. The more turtles in a hole the more they wear
each others spurs down .
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« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2014, 08:34:59 am »

Riddle me this?

What color is the meat?   Never sawed into one personally.  But heard some wild rumors.

Some of the meat is red, not as red as deer meat, but the consistency of deer meat. Some of it is translucent (some say white),
like frog legs, real fine meat  and some is a mixture of the 2, about the look of chicken. The front and hind quarters are red meat
transitioning into the clear meat.   We don't keep any under 40 lbs because they are all head and shell and they yield little meat,
just seems a waste for the little meat you get.  Now the bigger ones, I remember the one in the top pic was 110 lbs,  He yielded
65 lbs, of meat (on the bone) after we cleaned him. Every thing is done with him on his back. After bottom shell is off everything
is right there. Skin and cut each leg quarter out then the tail then the neck. A lot of meat in his neck running into his head.
Now everything is separated from the shell. Cut the feet off at the joints then you have to skin the hide off each piece like a deer.
You can't pull the hide from the meat , it has to be skinned. You can clean a big logger head pretty quick.

They are very simple to clean. If you look at the pics you see his bottom shell connects to the top by just a little piece on both sides.
You cut that with a hatchet then skin the bottom shell off, takes about a minute. 

I mainly catch them on lines tied to a tree along an old natural bayou in the swamp. I bait a hook with a piece of carp and gently push
it into the sediment a few inches...  I also was taught by my grandfather how to pole them out of their caves with a hook pole during
the cold winter months when they are hibernating. They dig holes in the bank and they pile on top of one another to hibernate.

If you notice on the pic of Myles shell, there are 3 rows of "spurs" on his back. if you catch a large one and his spurs are tall and pointed,
there are probably not many turtles in the area. If you catch one that his spurs are worn down and rounded off, there is a good population. If you catch one that the rows of spurs are slap worn down , then you have a lot of logger heads in the area.  When they
are hibernating they pile on top of one another and that's what wears them spurs down. The more turtles in a hole the more they wear
each others spurs down .

Learn something new everyday. Thanks for postin that mr. Jim


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« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2014, 11:35:44 am »

Dang right.....great story..pics and info.

Am always willing and eager to learn more about Cooter.
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« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2014, 02:44:59 pm »

Guys for what its worth, I see the term loggerhead being used in a here a couple times.  Loggerheads are part of the marine mammal protection act, and a federal offense to harass, harvest or even posses their shell/remains.  Just sayin.

Loggerheads aren't listed in the act, so as far as I can tell Bon-appetite.
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« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2014, 04:40:15 pm »

When "cooter" is on the menu, it's always a good night
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« Reply #26 on: March 07, 2014, 06:19:47 pm »

Guys for what its worth, I see the term loggerhead being used in a here a couple times.  Loggerheads are part of the marine mammal protection act, and a federal offense to harass, harvest or even posses their shell/remains.  Just sayin.

Loggerheads aren't listed in the act, so as far as I can tell Bon-appetite.

That's right. A Loggerhead is a sea turtle. Where I'm from Cajuns always called Alligator Snapping Turtles
Loggerheads also.
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« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2014, 06:29:48 pm »

That's what we call them is loggerheads. Been a while but I have had a few meals of them myself. We use to catch out of bayou  here close.


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« Reply #28 on: March 07, 2014, 08:24:22 pm »

Gotcha,  I didn't know that.  Down here we actually get them from time to time.  And ive had to explain to people why they couldn't keep the shells.
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« Reply #29 on: March 07, 2014, 09:47:55 pm »

Yep. Same here.. slang for Aligator Snappers round here is Loggerheads also......but ain't much salt water round East Texas river bottoms.   Grin
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« Reply #30 on: March 08, 2014, 12:43:55 am »

Mr. Jim I am amazed at that first pic you posted.  You looked just like David does now.
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« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2014, 04:45:11 am »

Mr. Jim I am amazed at that first pic you posted.  You looked just like David does now.

That first pic was about 32 yrs. ago.  I was in my early 20's. That young'un in the second pic is Kip. He's
about 20 now.  And that's ole David with me in the third pic. He's 27 now.
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