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« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2009, 11:11:18 pm » |
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When I hunt in idaho with hounds I wont turn my dogs out unless I know the track is from within 24 hours or so, even then you have to stay with the dogs no matter what the terrain, idaho is not flat like texas, if you relesed a dog on a seven day old track you probably wont even get a bark out of the best hound on that old of a track.And if your best dog does take the track you will regret ever putting that dog on the ground, if your lucky the wolves wont find him before you can get a cat up a tree.The only way to really age tracks in Idaho is hunt fresh snow from the night before, when you cut a track and turn the dogs out you can be sure that it is fresh and your dogs have a chance of catching up and treeing the cat.
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« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2009, 11:58:23 pm » |
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yes,this is a blood tracking dog I am talking about. One advantage he has over our hog dogs, is that when we are called out to track, we are normally looking for a hog/deer that is already dead, or wounded enough to bed up, or only hit superficially so we're not gonna find him anyway. on almost all of the tracks we take, I am able to tell the age of the trail just by asking the hunter who took the shot. On the 23 hour old one, It was shot the evening before and I just couldn't make it until the following evening. The track was in a well shaded area, there had been a little dew the night before, and there had been no wind to blow the trail away. It was late afternoon when we took the track, which is my favorite time, it just seems like the dog has a better time of it then. It was also a pretty short trail. started with blood there but it petered out which is why we got called in the first place. There are plenty of blood trail dogs that could take a 24 hr old trail almost anywhere, given the right conditions. for example : http://www.texastrackers.com/stories/Hunter's%20164%20buck.htm I guess the two don't compare as well as I'd hoped. I was just trying to agree with matt, with regard to how conditions can change things. |
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« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2009, 02:10:12 am » |
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i think it depends on the ground conditons...hard, soft, wet, dry, etc.. also, i think the weight and size of the hog matters too...bigger boars leave bigger and deeper tracks. Bigger boars have bigger smells..  what do i know though... my opinion...  hot- 2 hrs or less... medium- 3-6 hours... cold- 7-24 hrs... My dogs do well when they've been there in the last hour!! |
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« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2009, 04:21:55 am » |
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most my dogs do better on a hour old track but i have a couple that do good on a few hour old
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« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2009, 07:25:01 pm » |
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i got to say this how in the heck can ANYBODY say that is a ten hour old track did somebody watch the hog go by an start the stop watch an then ten hours later put a dog in the track how does anybody really no how old the tracks really are
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« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2009, 08:25:33 pm » |
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I want to know how anyone knows how old any particular track is? Steve |
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« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2009, 08:27:18 pm » |
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Its stamped right there on the bottom of there feet! |
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« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2009, 08:37:24 pm » |
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ok fellas, we're thinking a little to hard about this. you all know you can tell a fresh track from an old one. If you pull up to a tank, and see a muddy swirl by the edge, is the track that comes out of it going to be fresh or old. If you see a track in the mud with nice, clean edges , without leaves and grass and whatnot blown in it is it fresh or old? I the track is dried out and crumbling on itself, is it fresh or old. You don't need to time it perfectly.
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« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2009, 09:44:30 pm » |
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Hunt after a heavy rain and all old tracks are beat down, all fresh tracks will be easy to pick up. Hunting for tracks is a fun way to start the hunt on a rainy night.
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« Reply #29 on: September 29, 2009, 10:03:20 pm » |
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When I hunt in idaho with hounds I wont turn my dogs out unless I know the track is from within 24 hours or so, even then you have to stay with the dogs no matter what the terrain, idaho is not flat like texas, if you relesed a dog on a seven day old track you probably wont even get a bark out of the best hound on that old of a track.And if your best dog does take the track you will regret ever putting that dog on the ground, if your lucky the wolves wont find him before you can get a cat up a tree.The only way to really age tracks in Idaho is hunt fresh snow from the night before, when you cut a track and turn the dogs out you can be sure that it is fresh and your dogs have a chance of catching up and treeing the cat.
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Welcome to the boards and welcome to Texas, its not all flat. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_adXvtM_GcPg/SdLcrFbh8FI/AAAAAAAADis/T61IuEM-clQ/s1600-h/Hill+Country+view+near+Vanderpool.JPGDoes a 12 hour track headed north smell the same to a hot nosed dog named slingshot who was born on a leap year, as it does to cold nosed gyp named princess with three legs? No, it smells the same. The difference is does a dog have the desire to follow that track. Which is why I don't really think of it as a cold nosed dog more of a cold trailing dog. But ofcourse it really depends on what context you are talking about hog hunting or panther hunting? In my opinion a cold trailing dog is simply one that has the disire and instinct to take a cold track. Hounds have that cold trailing instinct curs for the most part do not to some degree or another. I just figgure a cold trailing hog dog is one that will work a track that is older than 6-8 hours, and dogs that don't are just not cold trailing dogs. The thing is a cold trailing dog is no good to me and would just slow me down, I know where the hogs are likely to be and all I gotta do is take a dog to one of those spots and they will hunt it out and come back if nothing is around. Keep moving on till we find a hog or run out of place to hunt on. I can find hogs faster any day with a good Cur dog than I can with a cold trailing hound. But I'm not the type that likes to sit at the truck and wait for dogs to find something. If I did that my dogs would just stand there and wait on me. Ofcourse I get irritated if my dogs stay gone for a while in a random direction or on old sign without checking back in. Its like.. what the heck does that gyp think she is a danged hound or something? Waylon |
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