How to get range on a dog?

[liefalwepon]

thats pretty cool slim, If I had bigger places to hunt I would do that with my dogs

[Slim9797]

appreciate it T-bob. And I can't disagree, I knocked a lot of range off but good thing is I do keep a few dogs that I think have enough "want to" that now I've started casting and it takes 20-30 minutes of just sitting and paying them no mind, but they will roll once they realize I'm not going anywhere. Over time I hope it starts getting to where soon as I dump em they chit and get. I don't want a dog to blow past tracks but I want one to kinda pick a general direction and go hunt that way for 6-800 yards, if they turn up nothing come back, if they hit a track, finish it! Do y'all think it's weird I've noticed these dogs ranging more now that I'm hunting nights by myself? I guess I haven't really casted or attempted much during daytime, usually with buddies and they're impatient and when I have friends that have never been I get antsy and probably push the dogs too fast. As for bottom that's what I'm working on right now. I appreciate the words of encouragement! Gonna go kick some mutts out in about an hour


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[Slim9797]

thats pretty cool slim, If I had bigger places to hunt I would do that with my dogs

this spot is really small, well it was. Only about 350 acres. But my step dad got on the phone and called all the neighboring places. Just so happens to either be family or long time family friends who own everything around there so it's grown quite a bit. Probably almost to 1,000-1,200 acres me and him can now run hogs and coons on and I still have some big acreage phone calls to make to out of towners. That have property around there. It's 5.2 miles from the road where I can start to the Navidad river and I'm trying to square all that land up so I can hunt the heck out of it. This area didn't have hogs until about a year ago and the population there now has exploded.


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[Slim9797]

I'm sorry. 4.2 miles lol


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[Bo Pugh]

i dont want to offend anyone by talking about walk hunting but it usually does knock range off dogs because the dog is having to focus on keeping up with the man walking. what i do wiith mine is like reuben said, stright from pen to dog box, then when i get to the woods i tie them up for collars and to take a crap, then load them in my dog box on my fourwheeler and ride til im ready to cast, when i cast i head them in the direction i want them to go by their collar, if they come back after a small loop dont let them stand around and play or you be petting on them, grab them by their collar again and send them another direction or either load them straight back in the box, standing around is the worst thing to let them do they will do that instead of going hunting. and when their gone dont leave from where you casted them from like ride to another feeder and look, wait on them to come back or get a track going and they will learn your not going to leave them, it takes time and just keep doing it and they will eventually learn when they get let go their suppose to be looking for a track not waiting on you to lead the way. good luck

[Bryant]

Patience is a virtue...especially when starting the young ones.  If you'll do just as you described by ignoring them, the ones with the natural hunting drive you're looking for will eventually get gone.  Once they figure out there are hogs to find, they will be blowing out of the box to get gone.

I use the same method when evaluating my litters of pups.  I'll even load the litters up and go dump them on a place where there aren't hogs.  My main objective is to sit (however long it may take) and see which ones eventually will get gone.  Multiple times of doing this will typically affirm the results...as it's usually the same ones over and over that are catching my eye.

[justincorbell]

mine have never been real rangey in no sign, but ive changed my game a bit this year and it has worked well even on my grown dogs.

I keep them up in the wheeler and go to where I feel like dropping wether in sign or not. kill the wheeler, unclip the dogs and read a book or play a game on my phone. I don't talk to them much or mess with them, just leave them to it and they have started really getting a lot better about range.

one of my best ones has always been frustratingly short ranged, but after a month of doing him this way, he left out and stayed gone about 2 hours yesterday morning. never did wake up a boar hog, but hunted hard and I wasn't mad at him

T-bob, I walk hunt a lot, in the last month I've got tired of them being so short range so I Started casting them at feeders off a rig at night and just completely ignoring them. The last 2 night it's taken about 20-25 minutes for them to finally roll past 300 yards but they've struck at over a mile both nights. Haven't stopped the hog(i think it's the same one we ran both nights) but I'm happy as all get out that they are ranging!!!


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not gonna lie, i laughed when I read the quote in the picture 

[Slim9797]

glad you liked that Justin 

[ED BARNES]

I've been raising and hunting the dogs I raise for a pretty long time.  Someone posted the video below on this site a while back, and I have to admit had I seen this years ago I could have saved myself a lot of frustration.  For the most part, I agree 100% with what this guy says.

My best advice for someone trying to get a dog to hunt deep is get a pup bred that way and just don't screw it up.  Easy to shorten a dogs natural range...sometimes without even realizing what your doing. 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGkdlpIxWbY

That is my video. Range can be bred in, but even then that doesnt make it automatic. I can take 10 dogs that I get at 4 months old and if they have never been messed with I can usually get 8 of them to go long 1000+ yds by 1 year old by themselves.  Dogs naturally want to hunt, too often we mess them up

[DCHD14]

Ed, on those 1000 yard trips how long does the dog hunt? How fast is he moving on those rounds? And is the dog back tracking most of the time? I got a cut for sure that goes 800+ since I've had him and he will go side to side or make a loop a lot of the time... But he does have times where he will back track either right on the same track or not far from it.  Is that something that can be trained for a different outcome?


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[Skrag]

Ed, on those 1000 yard trips how long does the dog hunt? How fast is he moving on those rounds? And is the dog back tracking most of the time? I got a cut for sure that goes 800+ since I've had him and he will go side to side or make a loop a lot of the time... But he does have times where he will back track either right on the same track or not far from it.  Is that something that can be trained for a different outcome?


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In regards to the back tracking not sure if it is the case and I am no expert but young dogs do it alot learning to work a track and even the older dogs do it running out older tracks.

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[Slim9797]

I've been raising and hunting the dogs I raise for a pretty long time.  Someone posted the video below on this site a while back, and I have to admit had I seen this years ago I could have saved myself a lot of frustration.  For the most part, I agree 100% with what this guy says.

My best advice for someone trying to get a dog to hunt deep is get a pup bred that way and just don't screw it up.  Easy to shorten a dogs natural range...sometimes without even realizing what your doing. 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGkdlpIxWbY

That is my video. Range can be bred in, but even then that doesnt make it automatic. I can take 10 dogs that I get at 4 months old and if they have never been messed with I can usually get 8 of them to go long 1000+ yds by 1 year old by themselves.  Dogs naturally want to hunt, too often we mess them up

seems like there gotta be more to your method than what you say in the video, or is it really that simple to you?


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[Shotgun wg]

DCH the situation you described sounds like the dog is working a track or feeding area track.


Shotgun
Arkansas

[DCHD14]

Shotgun, it can be anywhere. His speed varies but he will hunt like that every drop. I just want to get the back track gone for the fact that he is missing ground. He is a 5 year old and found plenty of hogs.  I got mostly short-medium range..... Mostly short though, lol. He ranges further than anything else in my yard. That range works perfect for me and where I hunt though. Long range really isn't what I'm after but they sure are fun to watch. I got friends that live and breath rangy dogs and they catch plenty of hogs with them. I'm more of a Mike Tyson style hog hunter myself lol


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[JGUIDRY]

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Shotgun, it can be anywhere. His speed varies but he will hunt like that every drop. I just want to get the back track gone for the fact that he is missing ground. He is a 5 year old and found plenty of hogs.  I got mostly short-medium range..... Mostly short though, lol. He ranges further than anything else in my yard. That range works perfect for me and where I hunt though. Long range really isn't what I'm after but they sure are fun to watch. I got friends that live and breath rangy dogs and they catch plenty of hogs with them. I'm more of a Mike Tyson style hog hunter myself lol


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Do you bite them on the ear???

[DCHD14]

If it makes


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[DCHD14]

If it makes them hunt better I might try it


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[Slim9797]

you can't cast walk hunting dogs they say


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[Slim9797]

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