hoghunter1977
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« on: March 31, 2008, 05:14:14 pm » |
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I had a bay pen I built that was about 6ft wide and 60 ft long the pup would stay on the outside and work.A friend had one that was about 100x100 he would turn one good dog and then some pups,he did the same thing when training catch dog pups.Anyone have any suggestion on the type,size or material.I am starting from sctarch and trying to keep cost as low as possible.....Good huntin'......Shane
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BRUTE
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2008, 05:32:33 pm » |
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We have a round bay pin that is made out of 5'x20' cattle pannels... the 4"x4" squares. T-posts to hold it up and like a 4' gate outlined in pipe that you walk through to get in. Its probably around 120' diameter. Has brush and a water line that trickles into a hole to make kind of a waller. It has a little lane with a square pin that is around 8'x10' so we can seperate hogs and only work the ones we wants (or let pups bark from the outside. Big hogs older dogs... small hogs for younger dogs. Buddy has one that is like 1.5-2ac and they used King Ranch wire and just built it like a normal pasture fence. They can make holes but very few have actually gotten out because of the size. Has water holes, brush, good practice pen. The smaller you go, more confined the hogs, the stronger it has to be. Don't use chain link... ... learned that the hard way.
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hoghunter1977
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2008, 05:40:58 pm » |
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hanks for the suggestion.Ive got 10 1/2 acres but trying to keep cost minimal with the price of fuel!Im trying to make something big enough to train a pup in and that my son can watch,hes 2,never to early to start.Maybe 100 by 100 and a seperating pen? out of 5' x 20 ' panels.....Good huntin'....Shane
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2008, 06:16:32 pm » |
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A good friend of mine built his out of 6 ft chain link fence that he got for free at a fence company.You must use the heavier gage link fencing, not the light gage, The hogs hit the fence and it held fine.,,No problem..The 4 in x 4 in pannels are called utility pannels, not cattle pannels, and they will run you about $50.00 bucks each so that is not what you want if your trying to go as cheap as you can do the mathand see real quick. . He ran 3 strans of barbed wire above the chain line fencing about 8 ins apart. A hog can jump out of 5 ft and sometimes 6 ft fence so thats why he put the barbed wire. Post is where you can spend a lot of money. They make the 8 ft T POST . The size of your pen depends on how much wire you can obtain.The bigger the better. My friends was round and about 30 ft diameter.
JUST MY OPPION,,,LAVON
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2008, 07:34:29 pm » |
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Hey ya'll,I have built some bay pens and one of the things we did was put tin on the bottom about 3 feet up from the bottom behind the chainlink so the hog could not see outside and they never tried to run through it I think is was because they could not see on the other side and instead of using t-post we used landscaping timbers found a scatch and dent sale.some ol rolls of chainlink but they were the galvinized heavy gage and some ol tin from some one down the road that had tapped holes from being removed from pumphouse/shed
also built a round one out of just the cheap panels at tractor supply company and t-post with a box for containing the hogs separte from the round pen, we checked our young dogs to see if they are loose, tight,grity, catchy.
the first pen was for holding hogs about the biggest hog ever held in the was about 350-380 but if the pen walls was not a least 7-8 feet some boar got out we learned as we went.we started out at about 5 foot
gotta go the Mr. just pulled in the drive
Belle
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BRUTE
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2008, 08:15:29 pm » |
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Pannel is $38... buy in bulk or take some with dents or that didn't come out just perfect. You can get deals if you try. Some times trying to cut too many costs on the front end costs you on the back end. I try to cut costs as much as possible too, but there is nothing I hate more than rebuilding some thing twice because I took the easy road or cheap road the first time. I have seen where they covered it and made the walls solid and yall are right. The don't try to get out near as hard. Buddy was talking about using some belts off of some kind of machinery that comes in like 3'x 20' or 40'. Two high and its a solid wall.
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2008, 08:37:24 pm » |
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Mine is about 30x60 oval pen with pipe post and cattle pannels, I took a 30" conveyor belt to run around the bottom, I've never had one jump out but never had a big hog in it either.
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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2008, 08:46:23 pm » |
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that' a nice looking pen jason.
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BRUTE
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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2008, 08:53:16 pm » |
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That's the stuff.. the conveyer belt. Good looking pin.
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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2008, 09:14:35 pm » |
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Unless your planning to train pen dogs or start a lot of puppies you would probably be much better off to see if someone has a pen in your area that you could use occasionally. A few sacks of dogfood will usually buy you some good pen time.
I personally have strong feelings about woods dogs spending too much time in a baypen. Young dogs need just a few times to see a hog, know the smell and what to do when they see one. When they know the deal and get fired up just walking on a lead towards the pen, it's time for the woods and I rarely take one back.
I think you can do far more good by spending time hobbling small hogs and turning them out for your young dogs to find, or tying them out to a tree in the woods than spending time in a pen.
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2008, 10:47:16 pm » |
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I like the belt idea as well, I have thought about doing that with the larger of my two pens with old carpet. I could still use the smaller portion for letting pups bay from the outside. I have two round pens that touch making it shaped like an 8. I have a gate where they touch for sorting hogs. I used the 5' tall 4"x4" panels and some T-posts I already and I still have around $300 in it. Yeah I know there are cheaper ways to go but it was my only option at the time I was needing one. I built a woods pen that is about 3 acres at my grandparents house and dug a pond in it and the whole nine. I just used field fence and it worked great. If I had 10 brushy acres that I wasn't using for much I would clean out a fence row, fence a few acres, build a round pen in the corner of the pen and feed water my hogs in that. I would put a trap front on the round pen and then if I wanted to turn them into the woods pen I could do that and then catch them back up in the round pend. Not cheap but it wouldn't leave you wanting. I would look to spend 1200-1500 in fencing material minimum to do this. Matt
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hoghunter1977
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« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2008, 09:07:52 am » |
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Hey thanks for all the good suggestions,some I have thought of and some I havent.Anyone around the coldspring area?.....Shane
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« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2008, 09:11:51 am » |
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Ive heard of alotta ways to build it but we chose putting the metal pannel(4ft high) on the bottom and cyclone fence on top(around 3 feet high) all screwed or nailed to 4x4 landscaping posts. it works out very well and we have a chute that goes to smaller holding pen. will try to get pictures up if you want ideas.
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