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« on: November 12, 2016, 10:08:53 pm » |
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I don't necessarily need another pit, but just for kicks, I went searching thru Houston Craigslist under the keywords "Pit" and "Pitbull" and I gotta say...... WHAT A BUNCH OF JUNK!
I've seen fat, blue, labrador headed, junky looking, absolute crap on every hog dog site on Facebook and it's been getting worse so I figured maybe the boyz N da hood must have reverted back to real pits while us country folks got worse and worse looking dogs and to my surprise, NOPE! The inner city dogs are even worse!! How the hell is anybody doing anything with these freaking walrus' pit bulls these days??!?!?
I see some of them labeled with Boodroe, Colby, Mayfield, blue nose, gator mouth?? What the Sam hell? I think Don Mayfield would ask for their address so he could drive to their house and club those baby seals himself if he was still alive!!
Alright sorry, done ranting. I guess the APBT is just about done nowadays. I know there are still true Dogmen out there, but my irritation is that I don't want to spend big bucks on a Catchdog when you used to be able to easily find 5 dogs that at least looked the part to try out for catch stock. Shake my dang head
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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2016, 12:52:05 pm » |
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I am certainly no expert, but I have noticed a trend towards these short legged, wide bodied looking things people are passing off as "Bullys".
Looks like a horrible trend of out of standard breeding, or breeding for what people think is the next cool looking thing, destroying a functional dog.
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Judge peel
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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2016, 03:36:42 pm » |
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There are some out there but u have to look for em
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T-Bob Parker
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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2016, 04:06:39 pm » |
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There are some out there but u have to look for em
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Yes sir I agree, but that's my basic gripe, just a few short years ago you could walk into almost any shelter or open the pets page on Craigslist and find 1/4 -1/2 the dogs at least had the basic, rudimentary structure and look of being an APBT. I know game has always been few and far between though. |
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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2016, 06:05:52 pm » |
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The Blue Pits was the beginning of the end. From them came Bullies and from them came Lowrider Bullies and Micro Bullies all PURE JUNK to the true APBT enthusiast. They look half minature hippo, half warthog just horrible IMO. Different strokes for different folks I guess but yes they are every where now.
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Goose87
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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2016, 06:12:02 am » |
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I'm afraid the more we get away from the breeds true purpose the more you'll see this and the ones who are breeding good stock are growing more and more reclusive every year.
Like Rednose said, and I don't mean to ruffle any feathers but sometimes truth hurts but you can thank blue dogs for that, when anything becomes a novelty and profit is thought of before performance you see a rapid decline in quality, nothing against females but I've always hauled males to the woods but with the way it's getting I've been lurking around and keeping my eyes open for good solid game bred females just to tuck back for brood stock and cross them over males that are a bit cooler that I haul hunting solely for my own use so I know what I'm feeding and going in behind...
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gary fuller
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« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2016, 12:19:12 pm » |
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i also agree on not seeing much of what i would call apbts in normal life today. heck my own daughter owns one of the modern day pet bulls and he sure is not cut out to be a hog dog much less a fightin dog due to his physical abilities or lack of. it used to be so easy to find a decent bulldog anywhere. free adults and pups from free to 100 bucks and if you spent 100 bucks you probably got a real bulldog. and hog hunters typically dont want to pay anything for a bulldog especially a pup. so that makes it kinda useless for someone to work at breeding them except for their own use so that limits number of them available to the public. a good friend of mine casey couturrier was watchdog kennels and focused on blue apbts. now those were still workin dogs and even some were pit tested. mitch alison won a heck of alot of the catch comps in texas with one of caseys bule pits. but todays pet bulls /american bullys have eb, ab and who knows what else in them and arent bred to be workin dogs at all.
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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2016, 05:34:43 pm » |
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Ghetto ruined apbt, now they are working on ruining ab.
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Reuben
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« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2016, 06:45:23 pm » |
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Part of the decline had to do with the laws that were created to stop pit fighting...used to be able to pick up a good one most any time back in the 1980s and 1990s...since then there has been a steady decline...I had two that were awesome looking dogs that would not catch...the one I have now l am about sure that it will make a good one...I said that one day catch dogs will be in demand because of the lack of good catch dogs to be found...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2016, 07:56:41 pm » |
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I use the slag bull dog to refer to a catch dog. Every blue shirt squats dog now a days people call a pit bull it's like pulling teeth to get people to understand the true pit bull have lingers legs deeper chest and longer mouth and are rarely over 60 pounds. There is a page on Facebook I follow that's called scratch dog forum and there's legit dogs there for the most part. Red boy jocko jeep honey bunch chinamen Eli Colbey mayday old family red most people will have no clue what you're talking about when you mention those names.
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gary fuller
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« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2016, 08:54:59 pm » |
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reuben i agree on laws making it harder to find real apbts as easily as you used to. with the bleeding hearts around and intent laws now on the book ,alot of folks wont keep one or 2 bulldogs and occaisonally roll em just for fun. then breed em ever so often and give some pups to good friends and sell some in the local news paper. i think a whole lot of us on this board can obtain real abpts thur folks we know. but i for one dont want to spend money on a fast lane dog for a hunting catchdog.
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« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2016, 09:51:10 pm » |
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That's the problem, people want a APBT, but they want it for free or less than a 100 or already trained.
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Goose87
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« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2016, 07:13:11 am » |
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Another thing that has really hurt them is the prices people ask now a days, when money gets involved with anything quality starts to go down, just look at other dog breeds, when men who are in it for the dogs and not to make a quick buck make a cross they give them away to select individuals or sell the rest for reasonable prices, I see on facebook everyday people asking anywhere from 500-1000$ for a PUP just because of its "breeding" when the seller themselves don't truly know what the dogs are worth, nor have they actually seen how game the said bloodlines are in its true form, they're just going off what someone said they should charge for them or they see what somebody else is getting, and when a buyer pays that kind of money for a dog that doesn't pan out its hard for anybody to cull a dog they spent that much money on but instead breed it because "it has good bloodlines" to try to make their money back, thus the cycle repeats itself...
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« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2016, 12:09:53 pm » |
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You got to look in right places to get the right bulldog these days, but I do agree with you guys. Most ppl want all the bells and whistles but for under a 100$
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Judge peel
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« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2016, 12:18:53 pm » |
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That's the main thing with most guys if there selling high dollar if there buying cheap skate. Even more so when it comes to pits
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Judge peel
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« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2016, 01:09:09 pm » |
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Well I now I have thrown this out there few times with no real results but if you have a gyp that is on the right side I got a one in a million dog that I need to get pups off of and it just ain't worked out. There are many people seen this dog in action to verify him.
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